What happens if you are not Christened ?

Pee

You can be buried without being christened because noone knows and noone asks the question. It isn't like you get a certificate of christening, and being as you are not around at the time... I think you should be christened both to get married and be a godparent. I was a godparent and I wasn't asked. I know that I was Christened and where, but I don't exactly know when - I know it was between when I was born and when I was a year old, but no more than that - and I was worried they would want proof. I wasn't even asked about it. So maybe it isn't a requirement, but I know my dad didn't know if he had been christed, so needed to do that before getting married and another friend did have to get christened to be a god parent.

Person_one

peachyprice wrote: »

For weddings, probably so it looks nice in the photos, bloody hypocritical and disrespectful IMO.

Christenings, I don't know, family tradition, not worth the fallout of not doing it perhaps, or just cos they want a nice excuse for a party and to show off their baby? Just as hypocritical and disrespectful.

The churches knowingly allow it though, become it brings in some cash and keeps the buildings open.

Are they not equally hypocritical?

Gloomendoom

Person_one wrote: »

The churches knowingly allow it though, become it brings in some cash and keeps the buildings open.

Are they not equally hypocritical?

The C of E is legally obliged to.

supersaver2

Strange that this subject has come up as yesterday I attended a Christening and on Saturday a reaffirmation of vows after 25 years of marriage. My friends who had their daughter christened are not in the slightest bit religious, and said they did it as it was the 'done thing!' Me and my wife are atheists and our daughter hasn't been christened, done thing to do or not!

I find churches odd places really, so many rules! The ceremony took place in a c of e church yet they took communion which I thought only Catholics did yet my friend who is a catholic said she wasn't allowed to go up and take communion as it was a c of e church. I did think 'not allowed?' Who says! I find it a bit like a cult, the Vicar saying words and people droning back, not my cup of tea at all!

Person_one

Gloomendoom wrote: »

The C of E is legally obliged to.

Are they really? Because they do turn people away, and they do put conditions on providing the service, how do they get away with that if its an obligation regardless?

peachyprice

Person_one wrote: »

The churches knowingly allow it though, become it brings in some cash and keeps the buildings open.

Are they not equally hypocritical?

Yes, they are, but that's a whole different discussion

Gloomendoom

Person_one wrote: »

Are they really? Because they do turn people away, and they do put conditions on providing the service, how do they get away with that if its an obligation regardless?

Because it is not a legal obligation regardless. A parish priest has no legal duty to marry anyone who is divorced and whose former spouse is still alive. The same goes for same sex couples.

Also welcoming people into a church, regardless of their faith, or lack of it, is hardly hypocritical. It is part of a priest's mission. ;);)
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claire16c

peachyprice wrote: »

For weddings, probably so it looks nice in the photos, bloody hypocritical and disrespectful IMO.

Christenings, I don't know, family tradition, not worth the fallout of not doing it perhaps, or just cos they want a nice excuse for a party and to show off their baby? Just as hypocritical and disrespectful.

I agree my friend I know did it for reasons like that. Although personsally I wouldn't want my photos to have a graveyard in the background.

BIL christened his kids even though he's barely been in a church in his life. If they want presents then have a naming ceremony!

aileth wrote: »

Personally, the idea getting married in a church, having to sing all these hymns is a nightmare to me. It just delays the booze-up.

'Apparently' (or so I heard) my grandmother-in-law was very upset we didn't get married in a church. My husband is once divorced and apparently it's very very difficult nigh-on impossible (especially if you don't know the vicar) to get married in a church once divorced, plus the fact that although I'm christened I really couldn't give a toss about it.

I also don't get people who only get married in churches because it 'looks nice' and don't have any religious basis for doing so. How can you make the promises in your marriage vows to an entity you don't believe in?

My friends dad commented after the service 'that was a bit religious wasn't it!' Which made me laugh! They had to promise to bring up their children in the faith which I know they won't. I just don't get it.

Person_one

Gloomendoom wrote: »

Because it is not a legal obligation regardless. A parish priest has no legal duty to marry anyone who is divorced and whose former spouse is still alive. The same goes for same sex couples.

Also welcoming people into a church, regardless of their faith, or lack of it, is hardly hypocritical. It is part of a priest's mission. ;);)
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So these pre-marriage 'classes' and being told they have to attend for X number of weeks before the wedding, couples could just say 'I'm not doing that, but you have to marry us anyway'?

spacey2012

When you die you queue up at the big gold gates and Gods secretary checks on a computer if you were Christened, if not you have to go down a big slide made of thorns to the fires of hell.
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