What happens if you are not Christened ?

adouglasmhor

DTDfanBoy wrote: »

Fluff15 is correct, if you haven't been baptised you will find it difficult if not impossible to gain entry to many Roman Catholic Schools

You can attend Church but for obvious reasons won't be able to receive communion, confession etc etc

Should add that Baptism is only the first step, many schools will insist you have been confirmed, and often require a letter from your local Parish priest, if you don't attend Church often that letter won't be forthcoming.

DTDfanBoy wrote: »

For obvious reasons Catholics are given priority to attend Catholic schools, if you are non Catholic, which includes Muslims, you don't have priority therefore it is more difficult to attend those schools.

What part of that confuses you so much.


Thanks for confirming my initial statement by using the phrase " it can’t be that difficult " :rotfl: apparently I'm not the inconsistent one

Then again with your shocking level of comprehension you probably don't even understand why that phrase is contradictory to your argument.

So is it difficult or not, you seem to be rather confused?

seven-day-weekend

jemb wrote: »

When I was asked to be my best friends little boys godmother I was asked by the vicar if I was christened.

Also, I went to c of e school, by law they had to take in 10% of the school year from other religious backgrounds. That was a few years ago though.

My son's CofE school did too, 10% people of other religions or none.

toontron

I come from a long line of athiests and I wasn't christened, but went to a CofE primary school, was Godmother to my Catholic best friend's baby, and got married in a church, I don't think anyone ever asked.

squashy

I'm a non catholic but in charge of admissions at an RC Primary and I can hopefully dispell some myths!

1. Priority at an RC school is always given to baptised catholic children. Some go further and request regular mass attendance too for a higher ranking.

2. A baptismal certificate needs to be presented at various stages for anyone wanting any type of catholic ceremony eg first holy communion, weddings etc. The church will keep this register and can produce copy certificates if lost.

3. School policies vary, but there is no logal requirement to accept x number of non-catholics. At my school, if there are 30 places and 30 baptised catholic children apply, those 30 get the places. Any non-catholics will be unsuccesssful.

4. The ratio of catholics/non catholics in every area and every school will be different. Some might be 50% catholic and some may be 99%.

5. Non-catholic families at my school are fully informed that the church is rooted into daily school life with prayers, assemblies, symbolism, visits to mass. In 8 years no parent has opted out of this, including hindu & muslim families.

6. At school, children quite often do ceremonies as a class such as first holy communion. Non catholic children can't participate in this.

7. Catholic schools do appear to perform better in many cases than county schools, and this often makes them popular/oversubscribed. I imagine this overrides any disbeleif in the faith!

Any more questions? I would be happy to answer!

carlislelass

OH couldn`t be a godparent as he wasn`t confirmed, yet a couple of years ago son was godparent in a catholic church...he was christened(needed proof) but not confirmed

MrSmartprice

squashy wrote: »

I'm a non catholic but in charge of admissions at an RC Primary and I can hopefully dispell some myths!

1. Priority at an RC school is always given to baptised catholic children. Some go further and request regular mass attendance too for a higher ranking.

2. A baptismal certificate needs to be presented at various stages for anyone wanting any type of catholic ceremony eg first holy communion, weddings etc. The church will keep this register and can produce copy certificates if lost.

3. School policies vary, but there is no logal requirement to accept x number of non-catholics. At my school, if there are 30 places and 30 baptised catholic children apply, those 30 get the places. Any non-catholics will be unsuccesssful.

4. The ratio of catholics/non catholics in every area and every school will be different. Some might be 50% catholic and some may be 99%.

5. Non-catholic families at my school are fully informed that the church is rooted into daily school life with prayers, assemblies, symbolism, visits to mass. In 8 years no parent has opted out of this, including hindu & muslim families.

6. At school, children quite often do ceremonies as a class such as first holy communion. Non catholic children can't participate in this.

7. Catholic schools do appear to perform better in many cases than county schools, and this often makes them popular/oversubscribed. I imagine this overrides any disbeleif in the faith!

Any more questions? I would be happy to answer!

I think you have made a good case for the abolition of all faith schools. Why religion should be a factor in a child's education is utterly beyond me.

You say there may be 50% catholic, or 99%. But what if there aren't? How do catholic schools go about promoting catholicism when there are virtually no catholics in the school? I have in mind a catholic school near us that is over 90% muslim. What is the point?

squashy

MrSmartprice wrote: »

I think you have made a good case for the abolition of all faith schools. Why religion should be a factor in a child's education is utterly beyond me.

You say there may be 50% catholic, or 99%. But what if there aren't? How do catholic schools go about promoting catholicism when there are virtually no catholics in the school? I have in mind a catholic school near us that is over 90% muslim. What is the point?

I am not sure what would happen in that case. The school would have been set up by the church to provide for the local catholic community and the buildings owned by the diocese. I agree trying to promote the catholic message in such a school would be bizarre!

Carl31

Christenings lol

People get so hung up on them, and they mean absolutely diddly squat to most people, even those that bother to still have them

At least they have more meaning than naming ceremony's, that's the most pointless exercise going

Person_one

Carl31 wrote: »

Christenings lol

People get so hung up on them, and they mean absolutely diddly squat to most people, even those that bother to still have them

At least they have more meaning than naming ceremony's, that's the most pointless exercise going

Nothing with a decent buffet and a bar is ever pointless.

More seriously, I can completely understand the desire to have a bit of a party celebrating your new child's safe arrival and where they are essentially 'introduced' to your community/social group/extended family etc.

Christening and Naming Ceremonies both fulfil that urge, at least a naming ceremony doesn't go on about the baby being sinful!