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How much do you spend on Wine?

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  • SailorSam
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    I don't drink a lot but i've started making my own wine, so probably about 50p a bottle.
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  • EKI
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    It is interesting reading people’s views. It seems the majority find a decent bottle of wine in restaurants for under £40.

    I do believe what people choose to spend their money on is personal; he obviously feels that the bottles he orders are worth it!
    I am looking forward to giving him a red wine taste test though, it would be good to find him a cheap bottle of plonk that he loves, I will definitely get him to try some of the wine from Aldi that was mentioned :)
  • Eww I hate wine......so nothing, zilch, zero! Ever.
  • I'm not a wine drinker, but do buy it.

    In a supermarket, I pay upwards of around £12/bottle on a wine on genuine offer. Chateauneuf du Pape would be the red wine I buy currently. White wine is always from New Zealand, at around the same price. For more special occasions, like Xmas, we'd buy more expensive wines at around £25/bottle.

    At a restaurant in the Summer, we saw one of the wines we buy at £39/bottle. It's about £11, but happened to be on 1/2 price offer in Mr T's last week! So in a reasonable restaurant, I think £35-45/bottle isn't expensive (which is partly why we rarely buy wine in restaurants; the mark up is horrific!) My parents will usually choose something around the £70 price mark.
  • Wow, shocked at the amount your BF spends on wine alone when you eat out!!!! Even in our 'good times' we didn't spend that much and we do like our wine! ;)

    These days we tend to get some cheap and cheerful red wine from Aldi. Depending which one (Hungarian or Australian) it's either £3 - 3.50 I think...and there's an Italian one we quite like that's only £2.99 :) Thing is, now we get through 2 bottles a weekend instead of the one we used to drink (£5ish from supermarkets), but hey, it's our treat, we don't drink down the pub much where a couple of pints is nearly the price of 2 bottles from Aldi!
  • [Deleted User]
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    Holiday Haggler
    edited 11 October 2013 at 3:32PM
    de_g. wrote: »
    Given that the cost of tax and transportation are broadly similar between bottles, it's fair logic. But most people wouldn't choose to set themselves a minimum nutritional standard and then buy the cheapest food available that achieves that regardless of what it tastes like. They vary what they have, they try new things, they spend a bit more when they fancy a treat. So why the snobbery against those who approach wine in the same way?
    But it's not a nutritional thing, it's a marginal "oh this is nice" thing. As you've rightly said, there's only a marginal difference, especially at the bottom price range of the market (because of the initial charges of tax, transport ect.)

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    From: http://blog.bauduc.com/2012/11/29/where-the-money-goes-on-a-bottle-of-wine-in-the-uk/

    So if you've bought a £10 bottle of wine, rather than a £5 bottle - you've only really bought £2.38 of extra wine 'quality'

    I think I reserve the same feeling for people who spend a considerable amount on wine for the people who buy £100 Ralph Lauren t-shirts. They're doing so to let other people know they can afford to do so - i.e. vulgarity

    If I compare it to a nice steak. I can certainly tell the difference between a £5 steak and a £10 steak, then a £30 steak. If someone sold me a £1000 steak, i really can't imagine it's comparative 'niceness' to be 33 times better. Same goes with wine.
  • hazyjo
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    Might be an idea to do a taste test on him.

    One bottle he's bought for big bucks, a Chateauneuf du Pape or something equally as 'good' for an under £20 bracket, and say two cheapies from Aldi.

    Make sure you mark things up very clearly before doing the test or he'll probably accuse you of fixing it ;)

    We'd love to hear the outcome!

    Jx
    PS remember they'll all need drinking fairly soon so you might want to involve other friends!
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  • de_g.
    de_g. Posts: 121 Forumite
    edited 11 October 2013 at 3:56PM
    But it's not a nutritional thing, it's a marginal "oh this is nice" thing. As you've rightly said, there's only a marginal difference, especially at the bottom price range of the market (because of the initial charges of tax, transport ect.)

    002930_bottle-blog5.jpg?resize=630%2C549
    From: http://blog.bauduc.com/2012/11/29/where-the-money-goes-on-a-bottle-of-wine-in-the-uk/

    So if you've bought a £10 bottle of wine, rather than a £5 bottle - you've only really bought £2.38 of extra wine 'quality'

    I think I reserve the same feeling for people who spend a considerable amount on wine for the people who buy £100 Ralph Lauren t-shirts. They're doing so to let other people know they can afford to do so - i.e. vulgarity

    If I compare it to a nice steak. I can certainly tell the difference between a £5 steak and a £10 steak, then a £30 steak. If someone sold me a £1000 steak, i really can't imagine it's comparative 'niceness' to be 33 times better. Same goes with wine.
    But food isn't *just* a nutrition thing - as Jack Monroe has ably demonstrated, it is possible to get all the nourishment you need from very little. So above that, you're into the discretionary side of it - spending extra for non-essential things like better flavour and convenience.

    As for 2.38 extra, the absolute value hides the proportional difference - by doubling what you spend, you're getting a wine which is itself actually four times more expensive, which is likely (though I recognise not universally) to mean better raw materials, potentially more labour-intensive production methods, longer aging, etc.

    As for vulgarity, I know quire a few people who spend a lot in wine, and none of them do it to show off - they do it for the experience of trying new and interesting things. The wine snobs I do come across are those who refuse to countenance the idea that wine can be anything more than a fruity means of conveying alcohol into the bloodstream, and ridicule or look down on anyone who would do otherwise.

    Edit: I think the clothes analogy is poor one. Buy a Ralph Lauren shirt, and you're paying four times as much for something of no discernible change in quality. Buy a more expensive wine, and you're usually getting something different in which you can identify where the additional value was added, even if you don't think it was ultimately worth it.
  • [Deleted User]
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    Holiday Haggler
    edited 11 October 2013 at 4:10PM
    fair enough. Some people feel they need a £60 drink to enjoy a night whilst others will be fine with a £15 drink.

    I'd be interested to know just what justifies the cost of a £400 bottle of champagne compared to a £30 bottle of supermarket fizz from the same region.

    Frankly, If my wife decided to buy me a £400 quid bottle of plonk for my birthday, i'd tell her I'd much prefer a new camera. I'm quite happy with a bog standard Californian Zinfandel most the time. If I wanted a nice white wine I'd be looking at a Chablis Premier Cru, and I think that's about the most I'd pay for a wine.

    Unsophisticated palate I guess.
  • andygb
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    Taragona in Lidl. £4.99 a bottle and outstanding value for money. It's equivalent to spending seven or eight quid in Sainsbury's. Sadly, my partner doesn't like red wine that much :(


    The Taragona is seriously good value at that price. They also had the Wolf Blass Presidents Selection Shiraz reduced to £9.99 I think, but my OH got a bit moody about it, so I just had to look and dream.

    My normal spend is around a fiver, but that is why I love popping over to France every so often, you can get decent wines for under 5 Euros.

    I reckon that Spain is best value red country, and Chile for white. I would rather drink good Cava than Champagne, or Cremant de Bourgogne.
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