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Job advert seeking male applicants only - can I report it? And who to?

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  • anamenottaken
    anamenottaken Posts: 4,198 Forumite
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    HappyMJ wrote: »
    My pizza has been delivered by a female driver late at night. I don't see the problem. Drivers only carry £20 in change...at least that's what we are told.

    I'd report the ad to your local Trading Standards. Nothing much will happen. They might have a word...they might not.

    I don't see that Trading Standards' remit extends to this issue.

    I believe it would be the Equality and Human Rights Commission who could "have a word" if it were reported to them.
  • spacey2012
    spacey2012 Posts: 5,836 Forumite
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    Do you actually want to apply for the job, or are you just making trouble ?
    Be happy...;)
  • Kavanne
    Kavanne Posts: 5,093 Forumite
    spacey2012 wrote: »
    Do you actually want to apply for the job, or are you just making trouble ?

    My housemate is. And I don't see how reporting something illegal is making trouble.
    Kavanne
    Nuns! Nuns! Reverse!

    'I do my job, do you do yours?'

  • fruitedeli
    fruitedeli Posts: 199 Forumite
    Kavanne wrote: »
    My housemate is. And I don't see how reporting something illegal is making trouble.

    And if your housemate gets raped or murdered? The chances may be low, but definitely higher compared to a man able to defend himself. Homosexual rape is also statistically lower.

    It's common sense to hire someone with a lower risk to the business.
  • RichardD1970
    RichardD1970 Posts: 3,796 Forumite
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    fruitedeli wrote: »
    And if your housemate gets raped or murdered? The chances may be low, but definitely higher compared to a man able to defend himself. Homosexual rape is also statistically lower.

    It's common sense to hire someone with a lower risk to the business.

    Maybe she is a champion kick boxer and quite able to defend herself.

    Not all men are able to defend themselves and regardless of who you are, there is always someone bigger, harder, uglier than you.

    You can not make huge generalisations like this based on gender.

    As for homosexual rape (random attack by complete stranger), is it statistically lower because it happens less or is reported less?
  • Southend1
    Southend1 Posts: 3,362 Forumite
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    From EHRC website....

    Stating a preference for a man or woman in a job advertisement is unlawful sex discrimination unless the requirements of the particular job mean that it is lawful to employ only a man or a woman. Gender-specific job titles, such as 'handyman' or 'salesgirl', should therefore be avoided. It is also likely to be unlawful to use language that indirectly implies the job is suited to one sex or other.

    The Commission can take action against employers it believes have placed discriminatory advertisements.
  • silverwhistle
    silverwhistle Posts: 4,000 Forumite
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    Or perhaps the advertiser thinks they should all be at home cooking some man's tea, or not go out to work at all, or might have more car accidents or get pregnant or have PMT regularly or have no sense of direction.

    It doesn't really matter, but he (I presume!) obviously managed to get to the 21st century without noticing the 20th. The fact that we may suffer rape more often is not a reason to discriminate further by denying us employment. I'd also point out to the advertiser that having female employees can also be a positive thing for some of his customers.
  • fruitedeli
    fruitedeli Posts: 199 Forumite
    Southend1 wrote: »
    From EHRC website....

    Stating a preference for a man or woman in a job advertisement is unlawful sex discrimination unless the requirements of the particular job mean that it is lawful to employ only a man or a woman. Gender-specific job titles, such as 'handyman' or 'salesgirl', should therefore be avoided. It is also likely to be unlawful to use language that indirectly implies the job is suited to one sex or other.

    The Commission can take action against employers it believes have placed discriminatory advertisements.

    Can doesn't mean they would. It's a waste of resource to investigate and it's also a grey area in justifying the reason to hire a male only. At worst the person advertising gets a fine, and then changes the wording and hires a male eventually.

    If OP or her friend is looking for some compensation payout she won't realistically be getting a single penny.
  • Poppie68
    Poppie68 Posts: 4,881 Forumite
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    Or perhaps the advertiser thinks they should all be at home cooking some man's tea, or not go out to work at all, or might have more car accidents or get pregnant or have PMT regularly or have no sense of direction.

    It doesn't really matter, but he (I presume!) obviously managed to get to the 21st century without noticing the 20th. The fact that we may suffer rape more often is not a reason to discriminate further by denying us employment. I'd also point out to the advertiser that having female employees can also be a positive thing for some of his customers.

    Why presume it's a man? Could just as well be a woman..so your points could be moot.

    They may well already have females working for them, but thought this particular job was best suited to a male for whatever reasons...just most probably an employer who has'nt meant to offend and has no idea what they have done is wrong.
  • Poppie68
    Poppie68 Posts: 4,881 Forumite
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    Kavanne wrote: »
    My housemate is. And I don't see how reporting something illegal is making trouble.



    Instead of making a big issue out of it, why don't you just pop in and ask..chances are they are not aware of doing anything wrong and may offer your housemate the job.
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