Bad Drivers

JReacher1

doughnutmachine wrote: »

tbh I think all cars should have their speed limited to say 85mph. it just seems stupid that people can buy cars that can do 150mph

85 seems low.

Although it's illegal I think in the right conditions 90 MPH on the motorway is acceptable.

doughnutmachine

JReacher1 wrote: »

85 seems low.

Although it's illegal I think in the right conditions 90 MPH on the motorway is acceptable.

yeah 90 mph can still be safe. but you see !!!!s doing 110/ 120 mph on a motorway, and to me that's just getting stupid.

I honestly think that car manufacturers should be sued if someone they sell a car to speeds and causes an accident.

shaun_from_Africa

doughnutmachine wrote: »

tbh I think all cars should have their speed limited to say 85mph. it just seems stupid that people can buy cars that can do 150mph

Limiting the maximum speed to 85mph will probably do little or nothing to lower the overall accident rate in the UK.
Motorways are by far the safest roads to drive on (statistically there are less accidents per mile driven on them than on any other type of road), and to be honest, if you have a major pileup at 85mph or 120mph, the outcome is likely to be the same.

Having a 85mph speed limiter won't do anything to stop people who want to vastly exceed the limit in built up areas or on rural roads where there may only be a 40 or 50 limit in place.

doughnutmachine wrote: »

I honestly think that car manufacturers should be sued if someone they sell a car to speeds and causes an accident.

And what about suing knife manufacturers if someone uses one of their products to stab someone or pen makers if someone buys a pen and writes a blackmail letter with it?

artbaron

doughnutmachine wrote: »

yeah 90 mph can still be safe. but you see !!!!s doing 110/ 120 mph on a motorway, and to me that's just getting stupid.

Practical problems aside (you can't just stick an 80mph limiter on a car!) it would make no sense. Motorways are the safest of all roads and the percentage of all road deaths caused by speeding cars on motorways is less than 1%. Speed limiters would cause more deaths than they prevented.

doughnutmachine wrote: »

I honestly think that car manufacturers should be sued if someone they sell a car to speeds and causes an accident.

That's like suing brewers every time someone drink drives.

martinthebandit

In my experience a bad driver is someone who drives in a way that would be a fail on a driving test.

Oh and as a point of interest that does include anyone who does not drive at or very close to the speed limit WHEN IT IS SAFE TO DO SO.

somethingcorporate

40 on a 60 drives me batty. If you cannot drive safely at or near the speed limit then you probably shouldn't be driving.

I had an awesome one last week driving south on the A64. This road is notoriously busy but there was a car sat at a junction to my right looking to cross the northbound carriageway and come into my lane. There was a small gap between the car in front of me and my car - maybe 30-40m but the traffic was flowing at 60mph. This numpty thought I should let him in as it was momentarily quiet on the northbound so he drove across and stuck his nose into my lane as I was rapidly approaching him at 60! Evasive manovers followed to avoid this prat, he honked me, flashed and sat on my bumper for the next 5 miles as if I should have given way to his bonkers and selfish driving.

The standards are so poor on the road - I have been using a dashcam for months now and wouldn't drive anywhere without it. I've already reported a number of fools for dangerous, stupid and incompetent driving (not the 40 in a 60 brigade though).

doughnutmachine

artbaron wrote: »

Practical problems aside (you can't just stick an 80mph limiter on a car!) it would make no sense. Motorways are the safest of all roads and the percentage of all road deaths caused by speeding cars on motorways is less than 1%. Speed limiters would cause more deaths than they prevented.



That's like suing brewers every time someone drink drives.

I used to work in an industry where every vehicle had a speed limiter. Speed limiters are relatively cheap to install.

I agree that motorways are the safest roads, but that doesn't mean that the faster a car travels the safer it is.....

Apart from racing on a private track there is no legal place where you can drive at over 70mph. So why are car manufacturers allowed to sell cars that can do 150mph? With knifes or booze people can use them in a responsible way, but there is no responsible way that someone can drive at 120mph (apart from a track day).

martinthebandit

doughnutmachine wrote: »

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Apart from racing on a private track there is no legal place where you can drive at over 70mph.

Really? Don't get out much do you?

There are thousands upon thousands of miles of roads where you can legally drive much faster than 70

doughnutmachine

martinthebandit wrote: »

Really? Don't get out much do you?

There are thousands upon thousands of miles of roads where you can legally drive much faster than 70

Lol, I've been to places that would give you nightmares

These thousands of miles of roads aren't in the UK though, are they?

martinthebandit

doughnutmachine wrote: »

Lol, I've been to places that would give you nightmares

These thousands of miles of roads aren't in the UK though, are they?

Do they have to be?