What do Tesco do to their fuel??

goonarmy

Joe_Horner wrote: »

Leave it, Jamie, before he decides to buy a gallon of Tesco petrol and try to prove his friend right.

I know a lot would put it down to Darwin if that happens, but personally I'd prefer not to think I'd prodded someone into burning themselves to death like that - hence staying away from his ridiculous claims up till now

I aint setting fire to nuffink. Did that a bit in me youth but grown outta it now. Ive never had a problem with tescos fuel or fuel at all. Imagine if i tried it it would be a mistake i regretted breifly-the rest of my life:D
That said the chap in question recovers vehicles for a living. Not for fun. So read into it what you like. No skin off my nose......
In a horrible fireball kinda way.

Paradigm

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

Because I used to work in the industry.

Ok.
So does each branded retailer have it's own loading point I.E One for Shell, one for BP etc?
As above, does each supermarket have it's own loading point?

Does the refinery produce diesel dependent on who it's for (not sure how)....better for Shell & the !!!! for supermarkets?

cardinalbiggles

Paradigm wrote: »

Ok.
So does each branded retailer have it's own loading point I.E One for Shell, one for BP etc?
As above, does each supermarket have it's own loading point?

Does the refinery produce diesel dependent on who it's for (not sure how)....better for Shell & the !!!! for supermarkets?

Absolutely not, there are a number of refinerys and they all kick out the same thing that gets loaded onto different tankers and additives added (usually there and then but not always)

The only difference you are going to get is in the octane rating. Its all cracked and distilled from the same oil, how much of each fraction you get from that oil may vary however but not the quality of the finished product.

GolfBravo

Ultrasonic wrote: »

We need to be careful what to draw from that ruling. It does not state that there is no evidence that the Fuelsave fuels improve mpg. It states (I'm paraphrasing) that there isn't sufficient evidence to support the claimed scale of improvement across a wide enough range of vehicles.

Further to this, one of the main objections to Shell's advertising in Germany was due to production variances: Shell was unable to guarantee the consistency of every single batch of fuel to back their claims. And as stated in their UK FuelSave data sheet the guaranteed cetane number, for example, is only 51 (to meet the EU fuel standard), although they claim that the typical value would be 53 to 55.

So since the wholesale diesel parameters vary considerably between production batches, the maths required to claim fuel savings simply doesn't add up - too many variables.

It's one thing to make great fuel and test a batch of cars in a lab test environment, and another thing to be able to later produce this fuel consistently in wholesale quantities.

Jamie_Carter

Joe_Horner wrote: »

Leave it, Jamie, before he decides to buy a gallon of Tesco petrol and try to prove his friend right.

I know a lot would put it down to Darwin if that happens, but personally I'd prefer not to think I'd prodded someone into burning themselves to death like that - hence staying away from his ridiculous claims up till now

Yeah, you do have a good point Joe. :T

Jamie_Carter

Paradigm wrote: »

Ok.
So does each branded retailer have it's own loading point I.E One for Shell, one for BP etc?
As above, does each supermarket have it's own loading point?

Does the refinery produce diesel dependent on who it's for (not sure how)....better for Shell & the !!!! for supermarkets?

I don't know that much detail about the distribution side. But I presume what you say is pretty much right.

Jamie_Carter

cardinalbiggles wrote: »

Absolutely not, there are a number of refinerys and they all kick out the same thing that gets loaded onto different tankers and additives added (usually there and then but not always)

You have changed your story. To start with all additives were added at the filling station. Then it was some. Now it is usually at the distribution depot.

You don't really have a clue do you? :rotfl:

cardinalbiggles wrote: »

The only difference you are going to get is in the octane rating. Its all cracked and distilled from the same oil, how much of each fraction you get from that oil may vary however but not the quality of the finished product.

Yes it is distilled from the same oil. But you get many different products from that same distillation process, and varying grades (as you can see from the images I posted earlier in this thread). Supermarkets often buy low octane fuel, and boost the octane with butane. The down side to this is that it can evaporate in hot weather, leaving you with low octane fuel.

colino

Jamie, please stop spouting your ill informed nonsense. I am heartily sick by your ilk, the googlegrabbers, the wiki!!!!!!s and the twittertossers with no inherent skills, knowledge or experience of the discussion: Willing to throw into every thread a comment confirming your inexperience and lack of ability on every facet of the matter, completely disregarding the enquiry of any initial poster .
Keep on thinking supermarkets brew their own fuel, it's kept just beside the beef they nurture and the bread from their own cultivated fields.
My experience, as a real, qualified, BP trained engineer, is that the first thing considered for general, consumer fuels, is that it attains, at least possible cost, the minimum standards required by the territory it is sold in to.

Jamie_Carter

colino wrote: »

Jamie, please stop spouting your ill informed nonsense. I am heartily sick by your ilk, the googlegrabbers, the wiki!!!!!!s and the twittertossers with no inherent skills, knowledge or experience of the discussion: Willing to throw into every thread a comment confirming your inexperience and lack of ability on every facet of the matter, completely disregarding the enquiry of any initial poster .
Keep on thinking supermarkets brew their own fuel, it's kept just beside the beef they nurture and the bread from their own cultivated fields.
My experience, as a real, qualified, BP trained engineer, is that the first thing considered for general, consumer fuels, is that it attains, at least possible cost, the minimum standards required by the territory it is sold in to.

You know nothing about me. And what you have said actually goes against what myself and others in the trade actually know.

If you must know, I only post based on personal experience, and not from info from anywhere on the web.

Ultrasonic

GolfBravo wrote: »

And as stated in their UK FuelSave data sheet the guaranteed cetane number, for example, is only 51 (to meet the EU fuel standard), although they claim that the typical value would be 53 to 55.

Interesting points GB. Here's a link to a Fuelsave data sheet for anyone that is interested:

http://www.epc.shell.com/Docs/GPCDOC_X_cbe_26724_key_140003767752_201012221146.pdf

(It's from 2010 so I don't know if it is still current.)