can we avoid care home charges

spaniel_dog

if I can say not just to Thorsoak but any who want to offer support, from one who has been at other end both in the past and present
first be good listener, dont be judgmental, dont make assumptions if you dont know all the facts, dont tell a patient to 'get back under your bridge' #175 dont tell a patient you think they are not telling truth about having an illness#245 #250 and if someone is not hearing what you are saying #263 then find another way of saying it.
I started this thread to ask a question, you may not like the question but it did not warrant the venomous comments. Not trying to be sarcastic but if was me I would suggest thorsoak perhaps print off all the pages from #1 take them to one of your classes use as example of what you may come across and how it should have been responded to, I will be very surprised if much support is forthcoming but would be good for you to report back what the professionals think about it all
by the way I have just discovered what a troll is, did wonder all the times it was said and now I know I have been in company of children
I will sign off now and go sit under the bridge

Pollycat

Spaniel Dog
Why don't you just let it go?

Do you really have nothing better to do than trawl through posts on this thread looking for perceived slurs against you?

I'm sure Thorsoak doesn't need your advice.

tonycottee

spaniel_dog wrote: »

by the way I have just discovered what a troll is, did wonder all the times it was said and now I know

Really? Last week you said

spaniel_dog wrote: »

I was actually thinking there are more than one troll commenting on my post, I was led to believe this site was to seek advice not to be insulted some of you should stick to twitter and not join in a serious site like this

Dunroamin

Errata wrote: »

TBH I've never seen one anywhere. Perhaps the support for cancer is because the proportion of people in the UK who got cancer during their life was 44% in 2010 and that figure is increasing, which I suspect is far in excess of the number of cases of lung disease.
Both my local hospices support people with lung disease through in-patient and out-patient services and self management support.
Cancer support isn't a level playing field. Someone with breast cancer will be offered far more support than someone (like me) with an uncommon type of cancer. I could get narked about that, but prefer to use my energy elsewhere.

I know that we're really not disagreeing but, as a matter of interest, 1 in 4 people die of respiratory disease.

"Respiratory disease now kills more people than coronary heart disease
– that is one in four people in the UK. It also shows that it is the most common longterm illness among children, the most common illness responsible for an emergency admission to hospital, and costs the NHS more than any other disease area.". BTS

By contrast, 96% of hospice users were cancer patients.

If it's any consolation, I had no support whatsoever when I had breast cancer, although that was some years ago.

Keep well.:)

FBaby

spaniel_dog wrote: »

if I can say not just to Thorsoak but any who want to offer support, from one who has been at other end both in the past and present
first be good listener, dont be judgmental, dont make assumptions if you dont know all the facts, dont tell a patient to 'get back under your bridge' #175 dont tell a patient you think they are not telling truth about having an illness#245 #250 and if someone is not hearing what you are saying #263 then find another way of saying it.
I started this thread to ask a question, you may not like the question but it did not warrant the venomous comments. Not trying to be sarcastic but if was me I would suggest thorsoak perhaps print off all the pages from #1 take them to one of your classes use as example of what you may come across and how it should have been responded to, I will be very surprised if much support is forthcoming but would be good for you to report back what the professionals think about it all
by the way I have just discovered what a troll is, did wonder all the times it was said and now I know I have been in company of children
I will sign off now and go sit under the bridge

If if you can take some advice yourself, maybe you might think twice in the future about asking people how to beat the system and getting offended when told that you can't, and don't give the 'I paid my taxes I am therefore entitled' line, as this also tend to wind posters up.

margaretclare

Have there been any suggestions as to possible causes of lung disease?

Some of the likely causes no longer exist. The Clean Air Act helped to deal with the air pollution caused by coal fires - the 'great smog' of the 1950s. There is Health and Safety at Work so no longer any excuse for breathing in noxious chemicals in the workplace. We no longer have a textile industry so, no breathing in cotton fibres in cotton mills. Yes, there's traffic pollution. What else? I can think of one!

Errata

margaretclare wrote: »

Have there been any suggestions as to possible causes of lung disease?

!

Cystic fibrosis, trauma, TB, bacteria, germs, radon ....

mjdh1957

One thing I have learned from this thread is that nasty, spiteful and bitter people who get cancer are still nasty, spiteful and bitter.

thorsoak

spaniel_dog wrote: »

if I can say not just to Thorsoak but any who want to offer support, from one who has been at other end both in the past and present
first be good listener, dont be judgmental, dont make assumptions if you dont know all the facts, dont tell a patient to 'get back under your bridge' #175 dont tell a patient you think they are not telling truth about having an illness#245 #250 and if someone is not hearing what you are saying #263 then find another way of saying it.
I started this thread to ask a question, you may not like the question but it did not warrant the venomous comments. Not trying to be sarcastic but if was me I would suggest thorsoak perhaps print off all the pages from #1 take them to one of your classes use as example of what you may come across and how it should have been responded to, I will be very surprised if much support is forthcoming but would be good for you to report back what the professionals think about it all
by the way I have just discovered what a troll is, did wonder all the times it was said and now I know I have been in company of children
I will sign off now and go sit under the bridge

Thank you for your valuable advice Spaniel Dog ...I'm sure I need it ..........I've worked as a Counsellor before and I'm sure I don't need reminding about reading and listening .....may I humbly suggest that you take heed of your own advice - and, something I used to advise young people who were about to write a vitriolic answer to an email - type it, read it, walk away, have a cup of coffee, come back - and delete half of it!

meer53

OP, you asked "can we avoid care home charges" ?

You've had your answer. Long ago. You've also been given peoples opinions and advice. Take the advice, listen to the opinions, now is the time to stop posting. You're making things worse.

You must be quite naive if you expected every post to agree with what you were asking.