Wrongly reported (malicious?)

Jamie_Carter

BurnleyBob wrote: »

Are you on a wind-up here or are you seriously suggesting that a 'lot of people' equates to a million plus for four decades straight?

The descriptor to appear on the unemployment total is very narrow and highly manipulated. The economically inactive figure is a much better indicator. You can find that data yourself because the government publishes it every month.

All government statistics are manipulated.

Yes I am suggesting that 1 in every 75 people in the UK would rather be a benefits scrounger than go out to work. You would have to have you head buried in the sand to think otherwise.

Before the recession many employers simply couldn't fill vacancies. In fact I have interviewed people for vacancies, where the only applicants were people just applying so that they didn't lose their JSA. They didn't want a job at all. And those weren't badly paid jobs.

MissMoneypenny

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

In fact I have interviewed people for vacancies, where the only applicants were people just applying so that they didn't lose their JSA. They didn't want a job at all. And those weren't badly paid jobs.

Then they must have been claiming other cash welfare payments too i.e. Child Tax Credits and Child Benefit. A couple of kids and JSA adds up to quite a lot of cash per week for a jobless single parent: about £230 cash per week from benefits; plus any maintenance the father/s (or mother) gives.

JSA is about £50 or £70 per week cash. No singleton (or childless couple on about £105 per week) can survive on that long term, if that is their only welfare payment.

BurnleyBob

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

All government statistics are manipulated.

Yes I am suggesting that 1 in every 75 people in the UK would rather be a benefits scrounger than go out to work. You would have to have you head buried in the sand to think otherwise.

Before the recession many employers simply couldn't fill vacancies. In fact I have interviewed people for vacancies, where the only applicants were people just applying so that they didn't lose their JSA. They didn't want a job at all. And those weren't badly paid jobs.

I'm not sure what your definition of a scrounger is. If it's anyone who claims benefits then the great majority of the population are. I'm also scratching my head about your 1 in 75 calculation. Perhaps HM Gov' is manipulating the UK's population and there's 75 million citizens rather than 63 million and that all of them are of working age?

I don't mind discourse but it soon becomes tedious when someone's so uninformed.

BurnleyBob

MissMoneypenny wrote: »

Then they must have been claiming other cash welfare payments too i.e. Child Tax Credits and Child Benefit. A couple of kids and JSA adds up to quite a lot of cash per week for a jobless single parent: about £230 cash per week from benefits; plus any maintenance the father/s (or mother) gives.

JSA is about £50 or £70 per week cash. No singleton (or childless couple on about £105 per week) can survive on that long term, if that is their only welfare payment.

Yes, JSA singles in receipt of £56 per week for under 25s, £71 per week for over 25s and £112 per week for couples as their disposable income certainly aren't partying and sunning themselves on foreign beaches every summer.

Ones with several kids might be able to if they keep those sprogs hungry and neglect them in other ways.

Jamie_Carter

BurnleyBob wrote: »

I'm not sure what your definition of a scrounger is. If it's anyone who claims benefits then the great majority of the population are. I'm also scratching my head about your 1 in 75 calculation. Perhaps HM Gov' is manipulating the UK's population and there's 75 million citizens rather than 63 million and that all of them are of working age?

I don't mind discourse but it soon becomes tedious when someone's so uninformed.

A benefit scrounger is someone who chooses to live on benefits as a lifestyle, as you well know.

The population is believed to be about 78 million. So stop nit picking about exact figures. They wouldn't be far off 1 in 75 when you take into account those who are working age.

People usually nit pick about exact figures when they are trying to deflect attention. :rotfl:

Jamie_Carter

BurnleyBob wrote: »

Yes, JSA singles in receipt of £56 per week for under 25s, £71 per week for over 25s and £112 per week for couples as their disposable income certainly aren't partying and sunning themselves on foreign beaches every summer.

Ones with several kids might be able to if they keep those sprogs hungry and neglect them in other ways.

And your point is???

You are going way off topic now.