Wrongly reported (malicious?)

FBaby

fingledingle wrote: »

Working class morals fuelled by propaganda of the government, It's a shame the elite don't go round reporting each other for their skeletons, Yes benefit fraud is wrong, End of, but over hyped, makes a great side show for the theatre of smoke and mirrors.

ANY fraud is wrong, but this part of the forum is about benefits, not tax evasion. It has nothing to do with working morals, just moral pure and simple. Who says that the 'elite' as you call them don't report each other?

BurnleyBob

FBaby wrote: »

What about the moral aspect to it. The fact that benefits for disabled people was set to help disabled people, not lazy people who will find anyway to get a good life without working, who take away from those who are truly unable to work. It's not so much the stealing from tax payers that is despicable, it's stealing from those genuinely in need who have to do with less therapy, drugs, social support that would make their life much smoother because of those lazy greedy scumbags.

The Incapacity Benefit bonanza was a tool politicians used to massage the true unemployment numbers. The same motive was behind the monolithic growth of single females knocking out kids 'cause they weren't counted amongst the total either. Another one's seen anyone who can distinguish one end of a pen from the other get a university place as they're off the total as well.

The UK economy hasn't been strong enough to generate nearly enough jobs to go around for several decades. It's been deindustrialised in the same way the USA has.

Globalisation is an equalising scheme with wealth being transferred from West to East.

FBaby

BurnleyBob wrote: »

The Incapacity Benefit bonanza was a tool politicians used to massage the true unemployment numbers. The same motive was behind the monolithic growth of single females knocking out kids 'cause they weren't counted amongst the total either. Another one's seen anyone who can distinguish one end of a pen from the other get a university place as they're off the total as well.

The UK economy hasn't been strong enough to generate nearly enough jobs to go around for several decades. It's been deindustrialised in the same way the USA has.

Globalisation is an equalising scheme with wealth being transferred from West to East.

So people on benefit committing fraud is ok because of the above?

portly1

Good grief, why are so many people heated up on wanting to report benefit fraud? What is it - UK's national pastime?

The effects of this fraud have been hyped up by the government and of course the Daily Mail.

Put things into perspective.
There are many crimes that happen every day, some trivial some serious. If people think that benefit fraud is up in the top ten of crimes and that they feel that they must tell someone about it, even if they have no proof that it is a crime, don't forget that dropping litter, cig butt, crisp even feeding a pigeon is also a crime. Please take photos of the offending bread crumb before you give it to the ducks and then email the info to the LA.

And back to the original thread. I have been on the other side - have been subject to investigation by the Police (suspicion of robbery) VAT office (questioned over an alleged VAT fraud & money laundering activities).

No offences were ever committed simply because they weren't interested in me, but what I may have known about other people. In both instances the reason they came to me was because of 'information received'.
Because I refused to co-operate with their silly little games they attempted to suggest that I was implicated somewhere down the line.

My stock answer was and still is for those that are 'pulled' Prove it!

This is Britain today - the most watched country via CCTV - in the world.

jacques_chirac

portly1 wrote: »

Good grief, why are so many people heated up on wanting to report benefit fraud? What is it - UK's national pastime?

The effects of this fraud have been hyped up by the government and of course the Daily Mail.

Put things into perspective.
There are many crimes that happen every day, some trivial some serious. If people think that benefit fraud is up in the top ten of crimes and that they feel that they must tell someone about it, even if they have no proof that it is a crime, don't forget that dropping litter, cig butt, crisp even feeding a pigeon is also a crime. Please take photos of the offending bread crumb before you give it to the ducks and then email the info to the LA.

Well, I guess it's not as serious as shooting a bank robber, eh Andy? :rotfl:

Dunroamin

jacques_chirac wrote: »

Well, I guess it's not as serious as shooting a bank robber, eh Andy? :rotfl:

But his drumming is truly criminal!;)

Poppie68

portly1 wrote: »

Good grief, why are so many people heated up on wanting to report benefit fraud? What is it - UK's national pastime?

The only one heated here seems to be you!

The effects of this fraud have been hyped up by the government and of course the Daily Mail.

It does'nt need hyping up. Fraud is a crime.

There are many crimes that happen every day, some trivial some serious. If people think that benefit fraud is up in the top ten of crimes and that they feel that they must tell someone about it, even if they have no proof that it is a crime, don't forget that dropping litter, cig butt, crisp even feeding a pigeon is also a crime. Please take photos of the offending bread crumb before you give it to the ducks and then email the info to the LA.

You seem to be confused, this thread is on a benefit and tax credit forum...therefore we are discussing benefit fraud. You want to bleat on about 'feeding pigeons' try the Praise & Vent forum.
How many needy people are going to suffer the effects of dropped litter or feeding pigeons as opposed to those suffering due to tax payers money being stolen by thieves?

And back to the original thread. I have been on the other side - have been subject to investigation by the Police (suspicion of robbery) VAT office (questioned over an alleged VAT fraud & money laundering activities).

No offences were ever committed simply because they weren't interested in me, but what I may have known about other people. In both instances the reason they came to me was because of 'information received'.
Because I refused to co-operate with their silly little games they attempted to suggest that I was implicated somewhere down the line.

No smoke without fire...

stock answer was and still is for those that are 'pulled' Prove it!

This is Britain today - the most watched country via CCTV - in the world.

Yep i agree...blame the fraudsters, thieves and any other criminal that thinks they can go through life stealing whats not theirs or helping to make decent human beings life a misery.

Jobseeeker

Its pretty clear that Portly is a troll (and has had several other identities on here). He's hijacked pretty much every thread and turned them into political/moral debates so the OP can't even get a simple question answered.

Jamie_Carter

fingledingle wrote: »

Working class morals fuelled by propaganda of the government, It's a shame the elite don't go round reporting each other for their skeletons, Yes benefit fraud is wrong, End of, but over hyped, makes a great side show for the theatre of smoke and mirrors.

Sounds like someone else trying to justify something.

fingledingle

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

Sounds like someone else trying to justify something.

Oh Yeah sure Mr C, Being an Ex Police officer, that would look good in the local wrag, shakes head in disbelief. grow up!