Child Maintenence

poppyscorner

Kimberley wrote: »

Keep your hairs on it's not the end of the world My opinion, you have yours, we don't all agree :rolleyes:

Thats OK you're right we won't see eye to eye on it but I for one will agree to disagree :j :j :j
but hey thanks for the discussion really got my blood pumping :T :T

Now just need to look for my hair:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

daisy_doughnut_2

Kimberley wrote: »

There are mothers out there who don't get child maintenance at all, they have tried getting it but the absent fathers don't want to know, but i bet you they have had other children.

im confused at this statement
i dont get anything from my DD father never have an probaly never will
i dont have any more but would love one
it has nothing to do with any csa monies

im also taken aback by how this thread has turned in to money

fathers comitment seems to be to pay up
mothers comitment is,.....well what is it if it were me it would be to help sustain as healthy relationship between the nrp as much as i could unfortunatly for me an my DD this didnt happen but not through fault of my own

money does not bring happiness
it may for the mother but only for the child if they have both parents in their lives

nej

Kimberley wrote: »

Obviously but if a father cannot afford to pay the maintenance set by the CSA just because he's had another child then he's taking money from that first child.

This is no different to if the parents are together and they have another child - they still take money away from the first one!

daisy_doughnut_2

nej wrote: »

This is no different to if the parents are together and they have another child - they still take money away from the first one!

good point:T

TheWaltons_3

Katie~baby wrote: »

Just because fathers have other children does not mean the first child is left out in the cold! Why do so many people believe this!! A man has every right to have more children, just as a woman does!! BOTH parents should pay for the child and if a mother could not feed her child this is NOT soley the fathers fault! The mother should provide as well!

If a mother cannot feed and clothe her child with the help a father offers then i suggest they to do something about it instead of moaning that the father doesnt pay enough.

I have a step daughter and we have a daughter together and im sick of hearing that we should not have had our beautiful intelliegent little girl who her sister adores because we should keep all our money for the first child!!

And get this, we are gonna try for another in the next year, shock horror! And yes this will reduce our payments, but does this mean we will love her any less, NO, does it mean we would see her without, NO....

The mother should HELP support the child she chose to have as well, people need to realise it takes two to have a baby!

Deep breath, rant over :rotfl:

What is absolutely laughable about this situation is the Women who have 3/4 kids to different Dads yet whinge about their exes moving on and having further kids. Double standards or what? :rotfl:

Money money money...

fabianne

As a parent of 2 teenagers in receipt of the mighty sum of £12.50 per week per child I'd like to comment.My ex has 1 child overnight for 10 nights a month,the other refuses to go.I have never stopped access and never would as it is important for kids to have 2 parents..
BUT!!
My ex leads a very nice lifestyle,works for the family firm,new wife that doesn't need to work,new baby to provide for,holidays,new cars,house extensions,golf trips...and his wages have not increased in 8 years!!??? Wow- a MSE indeed he must be!
I am proud to work hard and provide for my kids-I buy all uniform,shoes,dinner money and busfare plus equipment they need for school inc school trips.I provide all food,clothing,trainers,toiletries at home,mobile phones,socialising,computers,broadband etc etc etc.....and on and on...they are growing teeangers after all and they have their needs.He has told me that he has no further financial responsiblity for his kids.
I have been to the CSA-I have been to a Tribunal...there is nothing they can do as he is playing the system.
So if anyone would like to know if you can run a child on £12 a week-the answer is no.You end up getting further into debt,feel helpless and close to despair.Why should the children of a broken marriage suffer and deny them a certain lifestyle that they used to have-just because their father shirks his responsibilities.
The CSA should have more powers of investigation and look into personal cases in a lot more detail instead of letting fraud slip through the net.
I apologise for going on to all those who receive nothing from the other parent.
The children's costs should be assessed and then split down using a calculation based on how much time they spend with each parent.Or such as in this case-it is used as a tool of revenge and a long punishment from a bitter twisted mind.

and.. if anyone is in any doubt this was a father who told my own mother that he would not be happy until he saw me in the gutter,trudging home in the rain with **** carrier bags,back to my poxy flat with the (his)kids in tow......

and it is that thought that keeps me strong and working hard!!

poppyscorner

fabianne wrote: »

As a parent of 2 teenagers in receipt of the mighty sum of £12.50 per week per child I'd like to comment.My ex has 1 child overnight for 10 nights a month,the other refuses to go.I have never stopped access and never would as it is important for kids to have 2 parents..
BUT!!
My ex leads a very nice lifestyle,works for the family firm,new wife that doesn't need to work,new baby to provide for,holidays,new cars,house extensions,golf trips...and his wages have not increased in 8 years!!??? Wow- a MSE indeed he must be!
I am proud to work hard and provide for my kids-I buy all uniform,shoes,dinner money and busfare plus equipment they need for school inc school trips.I provide all food,clothing,trainers,toiletries at home,mobile phones,socialising,computers,broadband etc etc etc.....and on and on...they are growing teeangers after all and they have their needs.He has told me that he has no further financial responsiblity for his kids.
I have been to the CSA-I have been to a Tribunal...there is nothing they can do as he is playing the system.
So if anyone would like to know if you can run a child on £12 a week-the answer is no.You end up getting further into debt,feel helpless and close to despair.Why should the children of a broken marriage suffer and deny them a certain lifestyle that they used to have-just because their father shirks his responsibilities.
The CSA should have more powers of investigation and look into personal cases in a lot more detail instead of letting fraud slip through the net.
I apologise for going on to all those who receive nothing from the other parent.
The children's costs should be assessed and then split down using a calculation based on how much time they spend with each parent.Or such as in this case-it is used as a tool of revenge and a long punishment from a bitter twisted mind.

and.. if anyone is in any doubt this was a father who told my own mother that he would not be happy until he saw me in the gutter,trudging home in the rain with **** carrier bags,back to my poxy flat with the (his)kids in tow......

and it is that thought that keeps me strong and working hard!!

Hi Fabi,

Just wanted to say you have my support that is a disgrace the whole argument on here revolved around the origional statement from the OP that he currently pays £200 a month and on his new arrival would it be fair to reduce this I think that would be fair and in all of my statements made you are the exception my argument always was that it is the ones who want to pay get screwed by the ex and not always allowed to see their kids.

I completely agree that the CSA is used as a revenge tool by too many people.

Even if the OP halved the payment then it is my opinion that £25 a week would be sufficient for one child of course if this applied to your case that would be £50 a week for your boys add to that your equal contribution and you would have £100.

Sorry I am waffling on a bit and of course you have already stated he has played the system and in paying £12.50 a week that is a miserly amount for two teenagers.

There certainly needs to be some reform in the system and costs do need to be shared equally that is true I have seen times when hubby has gone over to ex's house handed her a £20 note for her to give it straight to new b/f and state in front of hubby get yourself down the club now have a good night he has walked straight past hubby and gone out smirking at my hubby as he left I fail to see how that benefits my hubbys daughter p****** his money against the wall.

I hope you will eventually get your true entitlement for your sons I just object to the fact that some people on this thread have said that my sons shouldn't be here as in order to have them we had to reduce maintainance from £60 pw for one child to an amount that we can afford but is over what CSA recommend.

Poppy

TheWaltons_3

poppyscorner wrote: »

Hi

I hope you will eventually get your true entitlement for your sons I just object to the fact that some people on this thread have said that my sons shouldn't be here as in order to have them we had to reduce maintainance from £60 pw for one child to an amount that we can afford but is over what CSA recommend.

Poppy

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Sad, Bitter and Twisted...

Kimberley

TheWaltons wrote: »

What is absolutely laughable about this situation is the Women who have 3/4 kids to different Dads yet whinge about their exes moving on and having further kids. Double standards or what? :rotfl:

Money money money...

Money might not be the issue with you and love comes first, of course it does yes i agree but without money your kids get no supper, without money your kids get no treats or live in rags.

Oh and I don't have 4 kids with different fathers nor has my ex had further children with his GF due to the fact he couldn't afford more kids because his main priority is supporting the kids he has now.

poppyscorner

TheWaltons wrote: »

:eek:

Sad, Bitter and Twisted...

Sorry don't understand that comment is that what you are saying I am or what