Civil Service and criminal record...

SandA

Hi

I have found online that it is exempt from the rehabilitation act unfortunately.

Thank you

Yorkie1

SandA wrote: »

Hi

I have found online that it is exempt from the rehabilitation act unfortunately.

Thank you

Can you provide the link to this information?

Yorkie1

Found the info now - no need for further info.

TrickyWicky

keyser666 wrote: »

They wont the law is very clear on this

The civil service is a different kettle of fish though. The op also needs to be aware that they would be expected to sign the official secrets act and uphold it.

Also while extremely rare, CS's can face jail for dishonesty while in public office. It's very rare but I have heard of it happening.

Op needs to be whiter than white through the application process.

Yorkie1

The Official Secrets Act and Misconduct in a Public Office do not apply to the scenario of getting a job through deliberate dishonesty (which the OP is not doing). Fraud would apply.

I agree that the OP needs to be up front within the requirements of the law.

The gov uk website contains useful info on the DBS filtering process.

The employer is an exempt employer under the RoHA.

Therefore the new filtering system under the DBS applies.

Under this system, common assault reprimands are filtered out and the OP can safely answer 'no' to the question about previous convictions and cautions given the age of his/her reprimand.

However, ABH reprimands are not filtered out and must be declared.

The OP's dilemma is that s/he does not know for sure what s/he was reprimanded for.

If and when the OP reaches the relevant part of the application process, OP will need to decide how to answer those questions. In the meantime, OP needs to try to find out which offence it was, by trying to find the SAR paperwork or applying for it again.

keyser666

TrickyWicky wrote: »

The civil service is a different kettle of fish though. The op also needs to be aware that they would be expected to sign the official secrets act and uphold it.

Also while extremely rare, CS's can face jail for dishonesty while in public office. It's very rare but I have heard of it happening.

Op needs to be whiter than white through the application process.

I have worked for several government departments and many quangos, I am more than aware. Official secrets act is totally different and comes with it totally different penalties.

shortcrust

Akashearsy wrote: »

I find it inconceivable that staff at NHS are not DBS checked although I know a few years ago they were lax as I found out an NH employee who joined us was DBS and an offence from 30 years ago came up how the NHS miised it I don't know I can only assume they didn't check but NOW in my area all NHS workers are DBS checked.

As for the original question if it is a basic DBS I don't think it comes up but if it is an Enhanced it will irrespective if it is spent or very old

It's a massive and varied organisation. There of loads of employees who don't need checks because they have no contact with patients or vulnerable groups.

SandA

I am hoping if / when I reach that stage, my honesty will atleast be appreciated (even if my application is thrown out due to it).

I have applied for a new SAR yesterday, although I don't think it will get back to me as I imagine they will take it to the wire and take the full 40 days.

Thank you all

auldblerk

The issue here now seems to be of clarification .. common or actual; if you can find out which one it was would benefit you.
Surely, there will be a record of this offence, can you contact the police authorities and find out ?

SandA

auldblerk wrote: »

The issue here now seems to be of clarification .. common or actual; if you can find out which one it was would benefit you.
Surely, there will be a record of this offence, can you contact the police authorities and find out ?

Only through a Subject Access, which I sent off for yesterday. However it can take 40 days to come back to me. (I get the idea that it will take this long also)

The problem is there is much overlay between what is considered common assault and what is considered ABH... I suppose sometimes its down to the discretion of the officer of what offence you committed.. so for now its impossible for me to know. I am quite sure it was common assault, I seem to recall 'common assault' being on my last SAR, but its just that little bit of uncertainty