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Brother borrowed 20k without consent
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How are things now with your dad, OP? Has any progress been made, and is he (and you!) feeling any more positive?0
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Caroline_a wrote: »How are things now with your dad, OP? Has any progress been made, and is he (and you!) feeling any more positive?
Sadly nothing to report but I believe the police investigation is just begining catch up where they left off for Christmas breaks as various offices were closed & people on leave etc. At this point there sadly does not look to be any CCTV available which is a great shame as it would give much more clarity to everything but details are still being checked about this aspect.
Dad is still very low at times but we are getting on with life as best we can with this cloud hanging over us with no conclusion in sight. Sadly dad has still not been able to get any response whatsoever over obtaining his personal sentimental possessions that remain in my brothers care & my nephews & niece appear to have simply blocked him out of their lives :0(
I realise that I have never really looked at issues properly from the victim of a crimes side beforehand & assumed the ideal that a person is innocent until proved guilty was a good thing as truth will out. I now see that a victim of even the most obvious crime will feel their own integrity is actually under massive scrutiny until justice is served & all too often justice is not served because criminals have more protection from the law than the victim!0 -
my goodness this is so sad. sending my best wishes to both you abd your poor poor dad for 2014 - i really do hope it is your year xxxCurrent Debt = LOTS - Must try harder!0
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I've just come across this and I can't believe what I'm reading.......I really feel for you and your father.....I hope it works outWe’ve had to remove your signature. Please check the Forum Rules if you’re unsure why it’s been removed and, if still unsure, email forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com0
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Still thinking of you Nana; and sending you and your dad very best wishes.
You're doing a GREAT job of keeping things together, despite the wretchedness of the situation. xxx0 -
Still look for updates on this thread every time i come on here, hope things get moving for your dad soon.0
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Still look for updates on this thread every time i come on here, hope things get moving for your dad soon.
Sadly there is no good news to report and it looks like for my brother crime might even pay.
It would basically appear with no CCTV there may not be enough 'definitive proof' for the police to prosecute. This does not mean the team do not believe or cannot clearly see exactly what has obviously happened to dad but despite all the damning evidence it simply may not be enough for CPS to proceed - it cannot hinge on dads word against his son (who has claimed dad gave him permission to take all his money), its irrelevant how clear it looks & despite taped call & paper trail there has to be 'definitive proof' so the offender absolutely cannot get off on a technicality - breach of trust is not an important enough offence for police to risk the cost of a failed hearing.
So...still waiting on CPS decision but if police cannot proceed with it as crime dad will be devastated. His only option will be to accept he has lost everything for trusting a loved one...his security, self respect and his family gone with no recourse!
Dad could sue his son & whilst this would definately get results it is very costly and dad clearly he has no funds - you will recall dad was left with £50 to his name after his son stole a total of £62,000 in savings shares etc. from him. At 85 with no property or assets dad has no way of finding enough for the solicitors fees & unfortunately I am not in position to pay fees for him either, there is no help like legal aid available to prosecute someone :0(0 -
That is so sad.
This reminds me of a day about 35 years ago when I was at work and an elderly couple came in so bewildered because their son and daughter-in-law had basically kicked them out of their own house by stealth.
It's so hard to know what to write but do tell your dad (if it helps) there are lots here who really feel for him (and you).0 -
How incredibly sad.
I really, really hope that this turns around and goes in your fathers favour!!
Kind regards.0 -
Nice to hear you're still in one piece and from the tone of your responses you seem reasonably ''in charge''. Some points I picked up from other replies:
If you/Dad can't contact him then someone else can ! If you were in Cornwall then I would happily wade in. IF the case is dropped then so is the barrier to you/Dad/someone going to his home/work - so be ready.
Is there still no definite reason for his requirement for the cash. It may be, for eg, it was needed to save a business and whilst that doesn't alter the facts about theft that scenario could have been used by brother to explain and reconcile. The fact he hasn't indicates the cash was for personal use.
I think you either wait for the police outcome and if dropped then down come the barriers or get a third party (friend / relative) to do the ''donkey work''. The third party could write to workplaces on the grounds of ''unable to get a response at home address'' That would get a response particularly if any of them worked in a financial capacity.
I also think that ALL family members should know the situation so start spreading the word. (Ensure all letters are recorded)
Keep smiling0
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