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Buyer wants smelly shoes ... For children

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  • alykatz
    alykatz Posts: 927 Forumite
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    Errata wrote: »
    Surely the point is that someone who has a fetish for smelly children's shoes is paddling the same canoe as those who look at
    innapropriate pictures of children?
    No not at all the object of desire is the shoe itself and has nothing whatsoever to do with the wearer of the shoes.
  • Sniffing shoes isn't pornography but specifically asking for children's shoes is in my mind having inappropriate attitude towards children.
    I seldom end up where I wanted to go, but almost always end up where I need to be
  • hermum wrote: »
    Some person has asked if they could buy something belonging to a child presumably to masturbate over & yet some people think that seeing a child or at least their belongings as a sexual object is normal behaviour.
    I think a higher level of hysteria is called for.
    A guess. Would it make it any less worrying if it was a woman?

    a lot of presuming and guessing going on...

    think about it

    OP has said THEY (no idea if male or female) bought shoes of all ages, (so womens and children), they obviously have an interest in used shoes (no idea if its sexual), and finding ANY used shoes is hard work, as not many people sell them (I gues as I've never looked).

    they dont really care who wore the shoes its the shoes they want.

    (now if they asked for a picture of your kids wearing them... but they didnt)

    people jumping to conclusions
  • I've had a look at the users other feedback, lots of other worn shoes. Some of them were small adults (size 4) which made me feel a bit better. Maybe wants kids sizes for storage reasons?!?!?

    Then I noticed that although the address for the user is 40 miles away, they have bought other kids well worn shoes from my area. Not sure if there are any implications to this but makes me feel a lot more uncomfortable.


    Seeing as you've reported it to ebay they should take a look at the buyer's history.



    Does make you wonder why they didn't just buy the shoes and take a chance at whether they were smelly enough rather than draw attention to themselves. I wonder if they've asked other sellers a similar question and if anyone else has reported them to ebay?
  • Edwardia
    Edwardia Posts: 9,170 Forumite
    Hi, I'm looking specifically for well worn girls shoes. Please could you tell me if these smell worn? If not, are there any in such a condition you'd be willing to sell? Also, are they from a smoking household? This is a genuine question - thank you.

    The person asking the question may want worn shoes that smell worn because s/he ages them up to look vintage and makes a profit on them. No one would believe him/her if the shoes smelled new or of cigarettes.

    If the person was just asking for worn shoes, s/he could be bronzing them and selling them as art and the more creases they had the more effective the bronzing. Tracey Emin bronzed shoes and baby clothes for an international art exhibition.

    Yes maybe this is a guy who likes to er release into shoes.. that doesn't make him a child abuser. There are a lot of men out there who dress women in school uniforms and cane them for pleasure but as long as it's consensual and she's over the age of consent that's not illrgal in private. It might be legal in a fetish club too IDK.

    Maybe he's a Dominant who buys secondhand shoes for his sub and makes her sniff them and lick them or wear only secondhand shoes because he says she doesn't deserve new ones.

    Maybe the person wants smelly shoes to sell to fetishists. There are women out there who sell their unwashed knickers - doesn't mean they get off on it themselves.

    Maybe the person wants small shoes for storage purposes so s/he can hide them and train a puppy to hunt out scents.

    Or maybe their dog loves chewing smelly shoes and these are decoys so the dawg doesn't destroy theirs. My labrador thought any cardboard box was for him - even as an adult he would pounce and bite out a corner and rip it to bits.

    OP you don't know why the person wanted shoes that smell worn. And shoes that smell worn doesn't necessarily mean smelly either.

    Even if he is using shoes for sexual purposes that's legal, whether you agree with it or not.. and what a numpty you'd look if he was giving them to his Irish Wolfhound :rotfl:
  • FattyBettyBoo, All you have to do is print the messages from the enquirer and the item details that they refer to and give it all to the police for a professional judgement on what action is appropriate. If the police need any more information, let them pursue it. If they don't think it merit's further analysis, so be it.

    ...

    Someone who has an interest in used children's clothing and in particular, values used children's clothing that retains the child's scent clearly and unequivocally has an unhealthy interest in children. You have a moral and civic duty to pass on this information to the police, who will take whatever action is appropriate. [And clearly you will not be wasting their time].

    I find it really very surprising and rather concerning that some people are advising that this kind of behaviour should simply be ignored and forgotten. Such advisors may wish to reflect on the possibility that they have both woefully insufficient information and insufficient professional judgement to be able to apathetically dismiss such behaviour.
    "The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing.
    ...If you can fake that, you've got it made."
    Groucho Marx
  • KxMx
    KxMx Posts: 11,124 Forumite
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    edited 13 September 2013 at 12:07AM
    Sniffing shoes isn't pornography but specifically asking for children's shoes is in my mind having inappropriate attitude towards children.

    I agree. It could be a harmless fetish (although the child bit freaks me out) or it could be someone on a path to committing crimes against children in the future.

    Best all round to report.
  • Strapped
    Strapped Posts: 8,158 Forumite
    They deem him their worst enemy who tells them the truth. -- Plato
  • alykatz
    alykatz Posts: 927 Forumite
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    edited 13 September 2013 at 7:30AM
    FattyBettyBoo, All you have to do is print the messages from the enquirer and the item details that they refer to and give it all to the police for a professional judgement on what action is appropriate. If the police need any more information, let them pursue it. If they don't think it merit's further analysis, so be it.

    ...

    Someone who has an interest in used children's clothing and in particular, values used children's clothing that retains the child's scent clearly and unequivocally has an unhealthy interest in children. You have a moral and civic duty to pass on this information to the police, who will take whatever action is appropriate. [And clearly you will not be wasting their time].

    I find it really very surprising and rather concerning that some people are advising that this kind of behaviour should simply be ignored and forgotten. Such advisors may wish to reflect on the possibility that they have both woefully insufficient information and insufficient professional judgement to be able to apathetically dismiss such behaviour.
    Maybe some people should actually read up and arm themselves with accurate information about what this type of fetish is and what its all about as opposed to jumping on the bandwagon with pitchforks.
    The fact you state "Someone who has an interest in used children's clothing and in particular, values used children's clothing that retains the child's scent clearly and unequivocally has an unhealthy interest in children" shows you have little or no knowledge of what a shoe sniffer actually is about.
    All fetishists lock on to a particular thing in this instance its shoes and from what the op says shoes from all sorts of people.Which indicates the person in question has no interest in the shoe wearers.

    http://www.psychologytoday.com/conditions/fetishism

    But then again in this day and age im not really surprised at the level of hysteria over something most people know nothing about and cant be bothered to find out about.
  • alykatz wrote: »
    Maybe some people should actually read up and arm themselves with accurate information about what this type of fetish is and what its all about as opposed to jumping on the bandwagon with pitchforks.
    The fact you state "Someone who has an interest in used children's clothing and in particular, values used children's clothing that retains the child's scent clearly and unequivocally has an unhealthy interest in children" shows you have little or no knowledge of what a shoe sniffer actually is about.
    All fetishists lock on to a particular thing in this instance its shoes and from what the op says shoes from all sorts of people.Which indicates the person in question has no interest in the shoe wearers.

    http://www.psychologytoday.com/conditions/fetishism

    But then again in this day and age im not really surprised at the level of hysteria over something most people know nothing about and cant be bothered to find out about.
    In the first instance, the shoes are those of a six year-old - not an adult. To most of us, an unhealthy interest in the clothing of a six year-old girl, and a particular longing for their scent is something we find both abnormal and disturbing.

    I continue to believe and suggest once again that the only appropriate action would be to inform the police and hand over all the available evidence. They may or may not wish to take further action, but it will be based on an informed, professional judgement.

    I find it rather disturbing that others have tried to excuse such behaviour and in their excuses, try to distance this activity away from children. Clearly the comments from the enquirer display a specific and unhealthy interest in children.

    It seems "some people" have learned nothing from the uncomfortable revelations of Operation Yewtree:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Yewtree
    "The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing.
    ...If you can fake that, you've got it made."
    Groucho Marx
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