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4 years no pay rise. what action can employees take?
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I doubt that will happen to me at a desk. EVERYONE in the workplace has a responsibility for health and safety.
That's true, but it's easy for unscrupulous employers to exploit vulnerable workers (e.g. Younger employees who are much more likely to have an accident at work) or those who (like many posters on this forum) believe they have to do anything it takes to keep any job at any cost because they should be lucky to be employed at all.0 -
Yes, but the benefits don't only apply to union members. Free riders can be a problem for unions because everyone can be disadvantaged by a few peoples' desire to save their subs.
What I earn is irrelevant. The important thing is that I am convinced that I earn more than a comparable worker in a non-unionised workplace. I also have other benefits like flexi time which cost the employer nothing but make a massive difference to me.
Work out how much is paid in subs in the UK monthly and you will then see who the winners are and its not the member.
Oh but it is relevant - tell me what you do for a job and I can tell you what the private sector pay.We’ve had to remove your signature. Please check the Forum Rules if you’re unsure why it’s been removed and, if still unsure, email forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com0 -
Work out how much is paid in subs in the UK monthly and you will then see who the winners are and its not the member.
Oh but it is relevant - tell me what you do for a job and I can tell you what the private sector pay.
Well I consider my subs give me a much better return than the 2 pints of lager a month I could buy instead!
Who says I don't work in the private sector?0 -
I believe you speak up and say 'move that !!!! out of the stairwell' (if stairwell blocked not just you shouting stuff out at random haha) & not walk by it and pretend its not there or cry to a union.That's true, but it's easy for unscrupulous employers to exploit vulnerable workers (e.g. Younger employees who are much more likely to have an accident at work) or those who (like many posters on this forum) believe they have to do anything it takes to keep any job at any cost because they should be lucky to be employed at all.
Younger employees are more likely to have an accident? Is that because they are not listening or just not bothered?We’ve had to remove your signature. Please check the Forum Rules if you’re unsure why it’s been removed and, if still unsure, email forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com0 -
How much do you think your union earn?Well I consider my subs give me a much better return than the 2 pints of lager a month I could buy instead!
Who says I don't work in the private sector?
I have no idea as you are so tight lipped lolWe’ve had to remove your signature. Please check the Forum Rules if you’re unsure why it’s been removed and, if still unsure, email forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com0 -
I believe you speak up and say 'move that !!!! out of the stairwell' (if stairwell blocked not just you shouting stuff out at random haha) & not walk by it and pretend its not there or cry to a union.
Younger employees are more likely to have an accident? Is that because they are not listening or just not bothered?
Ok I can give you an example: I once I injured my back at work because the stock storage area provided was not adequate. This meant heavy items were stored at height. It wasn't simply a matter of fire exits being blocked. Having a union health and safety rep can help identify these kinds of issues and the union and the employer can work together to resolve them. This benefits employee and employer through better health and safety, less sick pay, fewer compensation claims etc etc
Younger employees are at higher risk mainly through inexperience.0 -
So if we just look at say UNISON it would cost me £17.25 a month if I had joined it for example at my last job which was more than my last 2 pay rises lol
I don't think that's worth anything to be honest as I'd still not have got a pay rise and would have still been made redundant.We’ve had to remove your signature. Please check the Forum Rules if you’re unsure why it’s been removed and, if still unsure, email forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com0 -
How much do you think your union earn?
I have no idea as you are so tight lipped lol
My union receives around £175m a year from around 1.5m members.
However since unions are democratic membership organisations, the money is used to further the interests of the members, not to line the pockets of the shareholders!0 -
what about no sick pay and lots of claims for loss of earning.............that's how it is in the real worldOk I can give you an example: I once I injured my back at work because the stock storage area provided was not adequate. This meant heavy items were stored at height. It wasn't simply a matter of fire exits being blocked. Having a union health and safety rep can help identify these kinds of issues and the union and the employer can work together to resolve them. This benefits employee and employer through better health and safety, less sick pay, fewer compensation claims etc etc
Younger employees are at higher risk mainly through inexperience.
Your company should have a person in charge of health and safety and these areas should be identified before you go hurt your back.We’ve had to remove your signature. Please check the Forum Rules if you’re unsure why it’s been removed and, if still unsure, email forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com0 -
So if we just look at say UNISON it would cost me £17.25 a month if I had joined it for example at my last job which was more than my last 2 pay rises lol
I don't think that's worth anything to be honest as I'd still not have got a pay rise and would have still been made redundant.
If UNISON was recognised by your employer for collective bargaining purposes you may well have received a bigger rise!
Not to mention all the other benefits of being a member e.g. Individual representation at work, sickness and accident benefit, discounts on financial services etc etc0
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