Have anyone have had a boss who is a psychopath?

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  • Coraline
    Coraline Posts: 402 Forumite
    From my experience so far, I've seen both good and bad, there are a lot of very smart and capable people managing complex organisations in the NHS.

    Just because it's public sector doesn't mean its workers are crap. Not sure where people get this idea from.
  • Southend1
    Southend1 Posts: 3,362 Forumite
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    Coraline wrote: »
    From my experience so far, I've seen both good and bad, there are a lot of very smart and capable people managing complex organisations in the NHS.

    Just because it's public sector doesn't mean its workers are crap. Not sure where people get this idea from.

    I think it stems from greed. Certain people can't understand why someone competent and intelligent would work in the public sector when they could make more money in the private sector. The conclusion they draw is that all public sector employees must be lazy, incompetent or stupid. Of course we know that isn't true!
  • Dimey
    Dimey Posts: 1,434 Forumite
    Southend1 wrote: »
    I think it stems from greed. Certain people can't understand why someone competent and intelligent would work in the public sector when they could make more money in the private sector. The conclusion they draw is that all public sector employees must be lazy, incompetent or stupid. Of course we know that isn't true!

    I see where you're coming from Southend but I wonder whether its more to do with the high number of bad and often tragic experiences people have had from some NHS employees in recent years. They inevitably tar all employees with the same brush they experienced from bad employees. Imagine if Coraline's boss behaved that way to the public.

    Some public sector organisations have good reputations - eg. civil service.
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  • Coraline
    Coraline Posts: 402 Forumite
    Dimey wrote: »
    I see where you're coming from Southend but I wonder whether its more to do with the high number of bad and often tragic experiences people have had from some NHS employees in recent years. They inevitably tar all employees with the same brush they experienced from bad employees. Imagine if Coraline's boss behaved that way to the public.

    Some public sector organisations have good reputations - eg. civil service.

    It's interesting--the psychiatrist I've been seeing told me himself that the NHS is a very bad employer (he is NHS) and wasn't surprised by the stories I told him. I hear a lot of horror stories about bullying and such that goes on, but also know a lot of people happy in their jobs. It's never black or white.

    Dimey, that's part of my thinking the boss is a psychopath--one set of behaviours whilst dealing "behind the scenes" and a completely different persona when the boss is face to face with colleagues in meetings/conferences/etc.

    It's like Jekyll and Hyde, and you never know when the boss will snap. Constantly walking on eggshells...or more like broken glass.
  • Southend1
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    Dimey wrote: »
    I see where you're coming from Southend but I wonder whether its more to do with the high number of bad and often tragic experiences people have had from some NHS employees in recent years. They inevitably tar all employees with the same brush they experienced from bad employees. Imagine if Coraline's boss behaved that way to the public.

    Some public sector organisations have good reputations - eg. civil service.

    I think the majority of interactions with the NHS are a positive experience for the service user, it's just the occasional bad experience. However people are much more upset by a bad experience interacting with a member of staff in the NHS than they are when they interact with say a member of staff in Tesco or McDonalds, which in my experience happens much more frequently!
  • Coraline
    Coraline Posts: 402 Forumite
    Southend1 wrote: »
    I think the majority of interactions with the NHS are a positive experience for the service user, it's just the occasional bad experience. However people are much more upset by a bad experience interacting with a member of staff in the NHS than they are when they interact with say a member of staff in Tesco or McDonalds, which in my experience happens much more frequently!

    From a patient POV I'd say the majority of my experience has been great, including dental. There was somewhat of a paperwork palava in trying to get a referral sorted that took a month to figure out, but that's the only thing.

    I would guess that when it comes down to someone's health or if they have a bad experience whilst they're ill or in pain they would definitely be much more upset with a bad experience at the NHS, than getting the wrong type of burger at Micky D's! :P
  • dandelionclock30
    dandelionclock30 Posts: 3,235 Forumite
    edited 17 August 2013 at 2:17PM
    From the points you have highlighted it sound to me like the person has severe work related stress/ or depression and that they cant cope with their job.
    Theres a lot of negligence in the NHS and cover ups.I know a solicitor who deals with medical negligence claims and her office is very busy. Theres lots of mistakes being made with people being left in agony/ the wrong leg taken off etc. Its not very rare at all, its very common.
    Look at all the failing hospitals, North Staffs enquiries etc.
  • Southend1
    Southend1 Posts: 3,362 Forumite
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    From the points you have highlighted it sound to me like the person has severe work related stress/ or depression and that they cant cope with their job.
    Theres a lot of negligence in the NHS and cover ups.I know a solicitor who deals with medical negligence claims and her office is very busy. Theres lots of mistakes being made with people being left in agony/ the wrong leg taken off etc. Its not very rare at all, its very common.
    Look at all the failing hospitals, North Staffs enquiries etc.

    How many people had the wrong leg taken off in NHS hospitals in the last 12 months?
  • Coraline
    Coraline Posts: 402 Forumite
    dandelionclock30, you are definitely correct on that point--this boss is in over their head and never has directed a large organisation before. The last several positions were not that relevant to this and didn't last too long.

    That being said, the reputation for as someone said to me of leaving workers crying is well known. As with people walking right off the job because of the behaviour. (This was before taking on this role).

    I really don't understand how this person got this position.
  • Missme
    Missme Posts: 293 Forumite
    Does noone tell this woman where to go and shove her head?
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