Have anyone have had a boss who is a psychopath?

jacques_chirac

Coraline wrote: »

I think people think of the wrong thing when they hear the word "psychopath" as it's morphed in media to describe a violent murderer or such.

I never branded the manager in this way at work, and certainly don't intend to (as I said in my initial post, I would not want that spread about).

As for the staff, when the boss explode in anger and yells at colleagues...well what else are they going to think? I can assure you it's not a case of the team ganging up against the boss. I've worked in quite a few places over my career and never seen anything like this.

How am I suppose to help this boss? Serious question, if you have any tips or suggestions I really would welcome them.

Ask if there is anything you can do to help.
Provide constructive feedback - do not psychoanalyse, you're not very good at it.
Keep your nose out of other people's business and get on with your own job.

Having browsed your other threads, I would strongly suggest you think about how much personal information you post on here. Yes, the NHS is a large organisation, but you have given away so many details of your situation that it would be very easy for one of your colleagues to identify you.

Coraline

jacques_chirac wrote: »

Ask if there is anything you can do to help.
Provide constructive feedback - do not psychoanalyse, you're not very good at it.
Keep your nose out of other people's business and get on with your own job.

Having browsed your other threads, I would strongly suggest you think about how much personal information you post on here. Yes, the NHS is a large organisation, but you have given away so many details of your situation that it would be very easy for one of your colleagues to identify you.

Constructive feedback is usually met with hands waved in the air and spoken over.

That's the point--I'm trying to get on with my job but my boss is my business.

Yes, I have given quite a few details. And all of those details have been changed significantly for anonymity, yet the full stories are the truth. I understand the risks of revealing too much online, no matter what the website.

Dimey

jacques_chirac wrote: »

Ask if there is anything you can do to help.
Provide constructive feedback - do not psychoanalyse, you're not very good at it.
Keep your nose out of other people's business and get on with your own job. >>>>.

I think it would be very difficult to ask this type of boss if you can help. The boss would not recognise there was anything wrong and would take offense. The boss would probably shout at OP and pick on her in future to punish her for the embarrassment.

If Coraline's post wasn't just an amusing comment on the behaviour many bosses exhibit and she really is suffering, then.....

It will be difficult for OP to keep her nose out and get on with her job as the boss is making OP's life miserable.

In which case, I think Coraline has no choice but to find another role with a new boss in the organisation or move to a new employer.

If OP is really thick skinned, she could make a formal complaint about her boss's behaviour but that will just cause resentment all round and the employer is almost bound to support the boss so I don't reckon that's a viable solution.

Coraline

Dimey wrote: »

I think it would be very difficult to ask this type of boss if you can help. The boss would not recognise there was anything wrong and would take offense. The boss would probably shout at OP and pick on her in future to punish her for the embarrassment.

That is the reality of the situation, and what happened to my colleague the other day. Trying to help, bringing something to the boss's attention ahead of time, then getting screamed at for not doing it earlier (the deadline is a month from now).

Dimey wrote: »

If Coraline's post wasn't just an amusing comment on the behaviour many bosses exhibit and she really is suffering, then.....

It will be difficult for OP to keep her nose out and get on with her job as the boss is making OP's life miserable.

Thank you for understanding. That pretty much sums it up, as this is my direct boss. There is a track record with this person. Like I mentioned before, one person just quit and my colleague is considering it this weekend and might not even show up to work Monday.

Dimey wrote: »

In which case, I think Coraline has no choice but to find another role with a new boss in the organisation or move to a new employer.

Yes....that's what it looks like. This person will not change.

Dimey wrote: »

If OP is really thick skinned, she could make a formal complaint about her boss's behaviour but that will just cause resentment all round and the employer is almost bound to support the boss so I don't reckon that's a viable solution.

I think you are right--raising an official complaint will come back to bite me in the !!!!, that's what my gut tells me. I think the best strategy is figure out how to bow out of the job with some excuse and never say that I'm leaving because of the boss's behaviour. Can't ever badmouth your former employers you know...

ILW

Its NHS, what do you expect?
Most of the management are incompetent. If they were any good they would be in the private sector.

Coraline

ILW wrote: »

Its NHS, what do you expect?

Well for one I certainly didn't expect working for the NHS would wind up landing me into the NHS Mental Health Services as a patient!


Thing is there are a lot of colleagues I know who actually LIKE their bosses and get along brilliantly! Guess it's just one of those things, bad luck of the draw.

Dimey

Coraline wrote: »

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I think you are right--raising an official complaint will come back to bite me in the !!!!, that's what my gut tells me. I think the best strategy is figure out how to bow out of the job with some excuse and never say that I'm leaving because of the boss's behaviour. Can't ever badmouth your former employers you know...

You're spot on Coraline. Its sad you have to move on - one of many - but best in the long run and keep your own track record exemplary.
Maybe one day the employer will notice and wonder why all these people are moving away from your boss after a short duration.

Coraline

Dimey wrote: »

You're spot on Coraline. Its sad you have to move on - one of many - but best in the long run and keep your own track record exemplary.
Maybe one day the employer will notice and wonder why all these people are moving away from your boss after a short duration.

It's a real shame because I like everyone I work with, the team is great, but morale is low (more with the people who report directly to this boss).

And another real shame because I really like the job itself...I met colleagues doing the same thing in other offices and it's very interesting work.

I have a lot to think about. Thanks for hearing me out Dimey, i just needed to vent...and I don't like to talk about this stuff in the office. So much gossip goes on, I picked up all these stories from my colleagues and try not to say anything because don't want word getting back. I think people are just so frustrated and fed up they can't help but talk about it.

Southend1

You can't help a psychopath boss. Don't even try. You will end up causing yourself a whole load of trouble, stress and mental anguish. Just keep your head down and leave as soon as you are able.

Southend1

ILW wrote: »

Its NHS, what do you expect?
Most of the management are incompetent. If they were any good they would be in the private sector.

Care to substantiate that or are you just being an !!!?