P.I.P. timescales...

N9eav

lauramonks wrote: »

Hi there, I'm new to the forum but have been following for a month or so.
I applied for pip on the 24th Feb, had my assessment on the 6th may and got my decision today 21st may. It wasn't what I expected unfortunately. I have been granted standard daily allowance which I'm over the moon with, problem is I have not been granted any mobility at all. I put on the form that I couldn't walk more than 20 metres, but on the decision letter it quotes I can walk 50 - 200 metres unaided. This must be a mistake either on their part or mine, or maybe the assessor ticked the wrong box. But I can't even walk to the end of my driveway without being in agony.
I phoned them this morning g straight away and they said to put it in writing.
Does anyone have any experience of how long this will take if I post it tomorrow?
Thanks in advance.

Yes. you should write and request a reconsideration. If possible refer back to your original claim as to why you cannot walk the distance, supply any further evidence and enlist a GP or charity Lawyer if there is a charity that covers your ailment. There are a lot of mistakes. Our reconsideration took about 7 days from replying, although ours did come from the legal dept of the charity.

Bongo567

I heard not everyone has to go to a PIP medical, is that true!?

billywilly

Bongo567 wrote: »

I heard not everyone has to go to a PIP medical, is that true!?

Very few don't. The current figure of face to face assessment for PIP is running at about 95% of all applications. The government expected that the figure should have been about 75% at worst.
Maybe the reason for the high percentage is that the DWP are finding more 'suspicious' applications for PIP than they expected.
It just goes to show how more thorough the DWP are being compared to DLA or Attendance Allowance.

csh_2

My MR has been the longest part of my claim. Letter sent 23rd April, put onto system 28th April and heard nothing since. My original decision only took around 9 days.
When i called to make sure they'd received the letter I wad told they have 8 weeks to make a decision and it would be by 25th June at the latest.

N9eav

I would really like to know how the PIP system was designed to work and whether the assessment was designed to try and weed out those that are playing the system.


Having gone through the process with my daughter it is easy to see how the system could be manipulated.


The lady across the street for example has a Motability car, yet walked her dog for a mile this week. According to PIP to get full mobility, you should not be able to walk unaided more than 20 meters. So when she gets assessed, does she then get the walking sticks out and fall over in the Doctor's office?

rogerblack

N9eav wrote: »

The lady across the street for example has a Motability car, yet walked her dog for a mile this week. According to PIP to get full mobility, you should not be able to walk unaided more than 20 meters. So when she gets assessed, does she then get the walking sticks out and fall over in the Doctor's office?

On a general point, DLA and PIP are not awarded on the basis of what the claimant can do in the extreme, but as normal.

If she was entitled to DLA, then she may in principle be entitled even though she can walk with severe discomfort a mile a day.
This is however extremely unlikely to be the case.

But, if she has occasional weeks when she can walk, with severe flareups of a condition that mean that most of the time she cannot - she would be entitled - DLA or PIP.

People are not required to tell you the truth about their health condition.

If every day, she can walk a 50 meters - without severe discomfort - at a reasonable pace, safely, when she wants to, and do this more than once, then she is not entitled to either properly entitled, or is not getting PIP/DLA mobility for that reason.

For example, if she can't do the journey without the dog - under PIP - or other guidance from someone else, then she would still qualify.

Blackpool_Saver

rogerblack wrote: »

On a general point, DLA and PIP are not awarded on the basis of what the claimant can do in the extreme, but as normal.

If she was entitled to DLA, then she may in principle be entitled even though she can walk with severe discomfort a mile a day.
This is however extremely unlikely to be the case.

But, if she has occasional weeks when she can walk, with severe flareups of a condition that mean that most of the time she cannot - she would be entitled - DLA or PIP.

People are not required to tell you the truth about their health condition.

If every day, she can walk a 50 meters - without severe discomfort - at a reasonable pace, safely, when she wants to, and do this more than once, then she is not entitled to either properly entitled, or is not getting PIP/DLA mobility for that reason.

For example, if she can't do the journey without the dog - under PIP - or other guidance from someone else, then she would still qualify.

Exactly Roger, why are some people still not able to grasp that disabilities are not always physical....

billywilly

rogerblack wrote: »

If she was entitled to DLA, then she may in principle be entitled .....
But, if she has occasional weeks when she can walk, with severe flareups of a condition that mean that most of the time she cannot - she would be entitled - DLA or PIP..
.

I like the word 'entitled'. Yes everybody is 'entitled' to make a claim,
There is absolutely no connection with DLA and PIP. If someone has been receiving HRM for years and this award was given based on evidence supplied at the time, there is no principle involved that would suggest that they are also entitled to the enhanced rate of PIP for mobility. Grief if that was the case, then what is the point of having PIP.
There are many that find themselves in this situation of having a substantial DLA award but are refused PIP in its entirety.

billywilly

Blackpool_Saver wrote: »

Exactly Roger, why are some people still not able to grasp that disabilities are not always physical....

Mobility is physical? Unless you are looking at the other descriptor of finding your way round?
Some bright spark once told me that he had purchased a Sat Navigation to help him get round the local area- well that is what he put on his claim form. Strange really, considering that he travels all over the UK in his car for work and has never needed one before.
And of course he could have an assistance dog instead - probably his Jack Russell would count?

Blackpool_Saver

Yes Billywilly the other mobility descriptors the mental/cognitive ones which can affect mobility. You will always get fakers affecting genuine cases, and sadly it seems that some people will always think that disabilities are only physical.