P.I.P. timescales...

poppy12345

ds123 wrote: »

I told them about some daily living problems I have, which I should get points for, however I don't have any evidence of this, they only really have what I have told them when they were asking me questions, can I still get points for certain thing's I can't do around the house and struggle with even if there isn't any evidence but just only what I said when answering the health professional questions?

Yes you could still get points but evidence would help a lot because all they have is your word. Are you under the care of a GP or any consultant? Any letter with anything about your condition, or even a print out of your medical records from your GP? Do you take any medication daily? if so then a list of all of this. Someone that knows you really well could possibly write a letter for you to back up what you've said. If you've had your assessment then any evidence would be too late now, but if you get bad news and you're refused PIP and ask for a Mandatory Reconsideration then you can send in the evidence. Good luck.

poppy12345

tonkatol wrote: »

Hi all. - I can' t believe I've only just found this page!! Go on competitions page among other pages on a daily basis & only after trying to find out wait post f2f that I found you all. I applied for PIP in January and finally had my asssessment on 20/10. Chabba - my form was sent off to be audited but, for me at least, it was quick - had the assessment Monday,, got a letter to say it was being audited on the Wednesday and then got a second letter on the Friday to say the auidit had been completed and everything was satisfactory. Based on comments I have read here, do people think it would be worth me calling to see if a decision has been made some time next week? I found my assessment very stressful and feel that some of the mobility questions were quite ambiguous. I was asked how I managed in a supermarket - I explained I never go alone because I don't know when my back will give up & I was then asked how many aisles I could manage. My husband then prompted me that I always use a trolley (preferably a small trolley as I can't manage putting things in a deep trolley) and I explained that I am always accompanied - either by my husband or my teenage children. I was then asked awhether I could manage 3 aisles - I explained that I send my children off to get things & bring them to me and again I was asked how many aisles I could manage. As my husband pointed out afterwards (typically!) we shop at a small supermarket - sometimes I may be able to manage 2 or 3 aisles but that is not going all the way up and down and, if it was a larger supermarket, I would possibly not manage one, let alone three! This whole process has really stressed me and left me unable to sleep & I dread the thought of having to possibly appeal. Mind you, I feel better for reading some of these posts, so thank you all x

You can ring DWP any time and ask. A lot of stories that i've read people are having their decisions quite quickly after assessment. I only waited 2 weeks. Ring today, you've got nothing to lose. Good luck.

kittykat17

ds123 wrote: »

I told them about some daily living problems I have, which I should get points for, however I don't have any evidence of this, they only really have what I have told them when they were asking me questions, can I still get points for certain thing's I can't do around the house and struggle with even if there isn't any evidence but just only what I said when answering the health professional questions?

Just wanted to say that when I had my f2f I had no evidence to give the assessor other than my repeat prescription. I had assumed that ATOS had asked for my medical records but later found they hadn't. However, I just told the assessor how my condition affects my daily life, ie, washing, dressing, cooking, toilet (use a raised seat), shopping (mainly online but if we need fresh food or odd bits I go to the local shop, someone puts the shopping in the car for me and I use a trolley to move shopping from the car to the house), etc.


The assessor got me to do a couple of 'exercises' but saw how difficult it was for me and said he wouldn't do anymore.


I'm sure you'll be fine. All the assessor needs to know is how your condition(s) affect you in your daily life. I was awarded standard rate for care and enhanced for mobility and had also worried that only talking wasn't enough!


Good luck and let us know how you get on.


Su

kittykat17

chabba wrote: »

Hi everyone just looking for advise I had my assessment on fri but today I received a letter from atos saying my report has been sent for audit with them they say it will only take a couple days then will be sent to dwp can anyone advise me on what this means and will I have a long wait xxx

Hi, had my f2f mid June. My report was sent to DWP the following day and I was then told it was being audited. Two days later I was told it had been passed to a decision maker and a few days later I rang the DWP and although they wouldn't tell me what rates I had been awarded they confirmed that I had been successful. A few days later I received my back payment (52 weeks).


There's nothing to worry about and, hopefully, you should hear quite soon. I'd keep ringing them tho as I was told on a Friday that there was no news but rang them again the following Monday and was told the decision had been made on the Friday afternoon!


Good luck and let us know how you get on.


Su

tonkatol

Just phoned DWP - was told it takes 7-10 weeks from assessment to a decision. I queried the timings, stating that I had received confirmation that the report had been returned. The lady then checked & confirmed they had received the report on 23/10 and the decision should be made within 3 weeks, so I guess I need to wait a little longer!

jennij72

Does anyone know how long it takes for a mandatory reconsideration takes? I did phone them for them to say I'll get a phone call back in 5 days. Knowing how slow they have been wrote a letter to them last week. Still no phone call so glad I did write to them instead of waiting. Any advice gratefully received.

1111

well I got my decision letter today, I have been awarded enhanced care backdated to 22nd april.
I had my face to face on 20th so has come though quite quickly feel really happy and re leaved its over for 2 year
Thanks so much for all the help and advise during the wait and hope you all get it done soon

hello2020

1111 wrote: »

well I got my decision letter today, I have been awarded enhanced care backdated to 22nd april.
I had my face to face on 20th so has come though quite quickly feel really happy and re leaved its over for 2 year
Thanks so much for all the help and advise during the wait and hope you all get it done soon

Congratulation. was ur f2f with Atos or Capita?and was for mental or physical ?

Limara

The thing that seems to be springing up time and time again here is every one on here is probably honestly filling in the form and if we were not being honest we probably wouldn't be in the state we are in over it all, and posting about our problems here!
BUT they seem to think that every one is not being honest and are doing totally inappropiate tests to verify that, Even the people at the assessment centre were saying that their one test for all isn't a fair one.
I am damed sure we all know people that are on the old system that should have never have been awarded it in the first place!
I fail to see how so many people that have been given NOTHING at the first hurdle then at the MR have been awarded the PIP and on top of that some have gone from nothing to enhanced for both! how would it be possible to go from nothing to enhanced to both. I wonder how many outside of the " internet" circle not understanding how many points they feel they should have been given or how many points you need to get to get any award then give up and just take it they haven't been awarded anything!

I wonder how many people are not on line, Or even the ones that are online and never bother or are unable to dig deeper and never see a forum have no idea what the points system is.
I have spoken to 2 people in the last 24 hours both have internet and neither have any idea about PIP, the points system just very concerned they could loose what they already have! I was talking to the escort on my Daughters transport this morning, Her daughter is being reassesed and she does have internet access she didn't know anything about the points system at all!
As for evidence from medical professionals my husband sees his neuro once a year if he is lucky, We phone the MS nurse if anything changes and we need anything, There is no treatment for this,( other than the new wonder drug he was told about at his last visit £250 a month + private prescription fees which is totally out of the question ) then its a very basic appointment the letter we receive at the end of that every year is the same like we have no idea what ms is and its like he has just been diagnosed ( ie I have told Mr ...... that there is No treatment for this type of Multiple Sclerosis) He has no idea how many times a day he falls over both indoors and out, he has no idea how many times I go out shopping and get phone calls to ask what I had asked him to do before I left, or how many times I get home and the washing is still in the washing machine because he has still forgot even though I have phoned him and reminded him while I have been out!
No idea what its like to constantly feel like you are talking to a brick wall because 5 mins after having a conversation he has no recollection of what we have just talked about, or the arguements when he insists we have had conversations he must have had during the 16 hours or so a day he sleeps for!
And afraid of what you may find when you return home as his legs can give way without any warning and I have found him soaking wet sitting on the dog bed covered in mud from the legs giving way and him having to crawl indoors. he got as far as the dog bed and gave up. How on the earth can we ever prove any of this! let alone all the other help he needs. And there isn't exactly any one we phone to report every fall is there!
The trouble is there has been so many liars and cheats of the benefit system for so many years its the genuine ones that are now suffering for it! The system did need to be reformed but this is just a disaster over a year from claiming and still nothing what a joke!

Chrysalis

The DWP definitely now seem to work on the basis that assume everyone is a liar unless proven otherwise.

Regarding DLA, my issue with it was that there was way too much emphasis put on diagnosis, meaning if someone had a condition that the DWP considered to likely cause a disability such as immobility they would award HRM providing is proof of that diagnosis. Even tho the person may not have severe symptons.

On the other hand someone could have a diagnosis of a condition that is considered typically to only have mild symptons and as such get denied even tho they may have severe mobility issues, even worse people without a diagnosis can really struggle to get a DLA award, so for that reason the merits of assessing everyone has some justification.

However The clear problems with PIP are its blatantly designed to give less people help to save money, the non justified reduction in the walking distance required to qualify for the higher rates and the idea of assessing everyone does seem to be a blatant attempt to deny as many as possible, the real danger in this is that many council services such as disabled housing use PIP/DLA status as a qualifier, people without DLA/PIP are assumed to not be disabled.