Nice People Thread Part 9 - and so it continues

Yorkie1

lemonjelly wrote: »

Can I ask NP opinions, especially the ladies please?

I have a very good female friend who nearly died. For christmas, I want to get her a watch (time, geddit?) - (she has mentioned needing a new watch too).

Can I ask for opinions on the following options please:
1 http://www.watchshop.com/ladies-lipsy-watch-lp124-p99950123.html
2 http://www.watchshop.com/ladies-oasis-watch-b1383-p99963040.html
3 http://www.watchshop.com/unisex-timex-originals-easy-reader-watch-t2n791-p99957107.html
4 http://www.watchshop.com/unisex-d-and-g-medicine-man-watch-dw0514-p99934369.html
5 http://www.watchshop.com/ladies-betsey-johnson-watch-bj00131-09-p99964865.html
6 http://www.watchshop.com/ladies-betsey-johnson-watch-bj00084-25-p99964863.html
7 http://www.watchshop.com/ladies-guess-3d-animal-watch-w0056l2-p99954245.html
8 http://www.watchshop.com/ladies-guess-icon-squared-watch-w80056l2-p99938164.html

I'm terrible at making decisions too!:)
Thanks in advance.

I think 6 is absolutely beautiful, but I'd struggle to read it as someone else said. Quite a few of the others are likewise quite hard to read the dial.

If she really likes black and colours, how about the black version of 3? Though neither the white nor black ones are that pretty.

Don't think 2 fits what you've said about her.

Would 4 date at all? It is unusual and instantly recognisable for those of us over a certain age ...

Hmm, really difficult! The leopard print ones are quite easy to read and perhaps it'll depend on what her main jewellery colours are - does she usually wear gold coloured jewellery or silver?

I see your dilemma ...

vivatifosi wrote: »

Happy Chanukah Jewish NPs!

Same from me too!

CKhalvashi

Happy Chanukah guys!

zagubov

LydiaJ wrote: »

I suspect that it's been done using a rather loose definition of "invade" that includes "be part of an alliance liberating it from an occupying enemy power". Then you can class the Allies kicking the Germans out of Norway in WWII as "Britain invading Norway". I'm not sure most of the Norwegians perceived it that way at the time, though.

I'm with Lydia. We liberated Iceland in WW II for example ( I think) but I read somewhere that apart from us and the Icelandics in the Cod Wars, democracies have never been to war with each other. Thinking about that one, and thinking there must surely be other exceptions, but they're not coming to mind.

Many of the countries on the map were probably fascist quisling/ occupied states we helped liberate. As regards South and central America, for many countries, their involvement in WWII was often a bit notional until the end IIRC.

I better not think about this for too much longer otherwise I might wonder why an island nation nowadays needs quite such a huge army.

And am I the only person in the world who thinks that Thanksgiving sounds the most outrageous anti-native American celebration ever. When I was at primary school we were taught the pre-European-contact nature of the American nations e.g Algonquin, Lakota, Navajo etc.

vivatifosi

LydiaJ wrote: »

I suspect that it's been done using a rather loose definition of "invade" that includes "be part of an alliance liberating it from an occupying enemy power". Then you can class the Allies kicking the Germans out of Norway in WWII as "Britain invading Norway". I'm not sure most of the Norwegians perceived it that way at the time, though.

I have read the book and that's exactly what they have done. When I say I have read it, I mean part of if. It is in order by country, you get to Andorra and think "finally, one we didn't invade". I think I made,it to about C before I'd had enough of invading, then looked only at the ones we hadn't and why.

bugslet

silvercar wrote: »

I am far more confident in a working environment than a social one. Unless I am very very sure of all the people I'm around.
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Odd one out, I am far more comfortable in social situations than work ones. Probably because for a reason I have never worked out, I have to do 'business' and talk to people with MBAs ( sorry viva, I'm in the clone camp:o), and I always feel that I can't keep up. It's like a special club where I can't understand the rules to get in.

lemonjelly wrote: »

Valid points:

she's late 40's.
She's not a brand person. Whenever I have known her go shopping, there's only 1 word/question "is it pretty?"
she likes the more unusual/quirky/unique style.
!

Is it pretty - then I'd go for the Betsy Johnson flowery one. My favourite was second to last, probably because it's a bit on the glam side.

vivatifosi wrote: »

So do I. I had a shire accent, then moved to Aus and had an aussie accent, then moved to a council estate and picked up an estuary accent. I move between accents and can't help it. I swear people think I'm mad.

DH can tell which library I've worked up from which accent I bring home at the end of the day. I get "oh for heavens sake, stop dropping your 'h's and pronounce your 't's", or "you're sounding a bit up yourself". He has a stable shire no real accent thing which I'm very jealous of.

Mr Bugs used to be in the Swedish Merchant Navy sailing to New York regularly, before he was barred. He once commented that UK women soon started to speak with an American accent, whereas men usually retained their British accent. I tend to talk to different people differently; either it means I'm not a confident as I think socially and feel the need to fit in, or I'm incredibly gracious and want the other person to feel at east:p

vivatifosi

zagubov wrote: »

And am I the only person in the world who thinks that Thanksgiving sounds the most outrageous anti-native American celebration ever. When I was at primary school we were taught the pre-European-contact nature of the American nations e.g Algonquin, Lakota, Navajo etc.

If you think about that period in early American history, it is interesting how the timeline has been run. It is all about the Mayflower and the Pilgrim Fathers. The fact that there were colonies along the coast, most notably in Virginia, prior to that, kind of gets airbrushed out. I'm not sure this is because they were loyal to the king, or because they used slaves or something else. I'm not saying American school children aren't taught about Virginia, more that the emphasis is on the Pilgrim Fathers - though I guess that this is the area that the liberation grew out of too so that is natural.

More than that, when I'm in Florida it annoys me when I hear Floridians moaning about the number of Hispanics, when 1) Florida was previously held by Spain on and off until 1819 and 2) Spain settled Florida in 1565 and Saint Augustine with its Spanish heritage is the town in North America that has been continually occupied for the longest time. The relationship between hispanics and Florida, and Puerto Rico as a launch pad to Florida, was established long before it became a state.

I think America has done a good job of making Thanksgiving a multi-cultural celebration, though I take on board your point about Native Americans. To be fair to Americans, they are not the only country in the world who has committed attrocities. In fact, if you look at the supposedly democratic countries of the world, then most of them have done some pretty shocking things in their pre-democratic time. From Belgium's behaviour in the Congo, to the Dutch in the East Indes, to Germany's in more recent times. And when it comes to treatment of the indiginous population, then our treatment of Aborigines has to come under scrutiny too.

Hopefully as democracies, we've learned a thing or two since.

lostinrates

vivatifosi wrote: »

If you think about that period in early American history, it is interesting how the timeline has been run. It is all about the Mayflower and the Pilgrim Fathers. The fact that there were colonies along the coast, most notably in Virginia, prior to that, kind of gets airbrushed out. I'm not sure this is because they were loyal to the king, or because they used slaves or something else. I'm not saying American school children aren't taught about Virginia, more that the emphasis is on the Pilgrim Fathers - though I guess that this is the area that the liberation grew out of too so that is natural.

More than that, when I'm in Florida it annoys me when I hear Floridians moaning about the number of Hispanics, when 1) Florida was previously held by Spain on and off until 1819 and 2) Spain settled Florida in 1565 and Saint Augustine with its Spanish heritage is the town in North America that has been continually occupied for the longest time. The relationship between hispanics and Florida, and Puerto Rico as a launch pad to Florida, was established long before it became a state.

I think America has done a good job of making Thanksgiving a multi-cultural celebration, though I take on board your point about Native Americans. To be fair to Americans, they are not the only country in the world who has committed attrocities. In fact, if you look at the supposedly democratic countries of the world, then most of them have done some pretty shocking things in their pre-democratic time. From Belgium's behaviour in the Congo, to the Dutch in the East Indes, to Germany's in more recent times. And when it comes to treatment of the indiginous population, then our treatment of Aborigines has to come under scrutiny too.

Hopefully as democracies, we've learned a thing or two since.

I think some of the countries with a 'native' or at least 'before us' people still aren't brilliant at according rights to them tbh. The difficulties included how much do you protect a people from their own people?


Edit...fwiw...I love thanks giving nonetheless. It IS pretty multicultural, which is, I think, good for neighbourliness ( omg, that's an Americanism, huh?) . And a holiday where you take stock and count what's good in your life, count your blessngs, seems no bad thing for personal satisfaction and esteem, which in turn a also good for society. Yes, I agree. Historically its cringeworthy, but so are lots of things that we count as good.

bugslet

michaels wrote: »

I think Martin recently pointed out that yu can now get the MP3s from Amazon of pretty much any CDs you bought from them in the last 10 years. Just a shame CDwow/wowHD or whatever they call themselves now don't do the same thing....

That's correct, I found out by accidnet when I mis-clicked and all these downloads appeared - brilliant!

GDB2222 wrote: »

The white bits on the map are (allegedly) the only countries in the world that Great Britain has not invaded.

Whatever the definition, it could certainly turn into a project.....

SingleSue

Not the best last couple of days....the new glasses made me vomit, unfortunately, I had forgotten to take my dental plate with my two front teeth on, out first, didn't realise and flushed them down the loo.

Expensive £340 mistake that was!

Thankfully we have a great dental lab here who made me a new set in less than 24 hours and I can now go out in public once more.

Spirit_2

SingleSue wrote: »

Not the best last couple of days....the new glasses made me vomit, unfortunately, I had forgotten to take my dental plate with my two front teeth on, out first, didn't realise and flushed them down the loo.

Expensive £340 mistake that was!

Thankfully we have a great dental lab here who made me a new set in less than 24 hours and I can now go out in public once more.

And you have retained your sense of humour about it.:T:T:T