Nice People Thread Part 9 - and so it continues

lostinrates

It makes one sound very old and fussy daddy, but I think its a tremendous shame that children listen to adult themed music so very young. Love IS fantastic, sex is super, I very much like both, but I like them as an adult. I know I was not ignorant to them as a child, but I had other things in my life. It seems so much that lots more is about image and sex appeal and knowledge. In order to not hide truths (which I think is good) it seems that perhaps we forget that sometimes the whole truth is not necessary. I think the mechanics of sex as were clear to me through animals are fine and I knew about different sexuality a little) my mother i. Prticular had. Lots of male gay friends) but I don't think a lot of detail even subconsciously is really that beneficial. While I know lots of kids won't have a clue what lots of it is about the idea is there, subconsciously waiting to click.....and sometimes at a time when they need to be thinking more about who they are for themselves, not who they want to be for some one else.

People laughed at poor old Mary White House, and I'm not a fan of total censor ship, But play on demand changes a lot too I guess. Watersheds...do they apply? I still watch stuff almost entirely on. Normal tv at normal scheduled times......but I guess I'm in diminishing numbers.

(Edit, Btw, this is a very hypocritical stance for me.....I have earned from 'love pop' for kiddies. Briefly, long time ago.....about when I met DH )

PasturesNew

michaels wrote: »

You don't think simply reminding the tenants (of whatever age) that the property is being 'managed' is more likely to make them think about their treatment of it? A bit like making sure that when they move in everything looks well cared for is likely to make people think that the property should be cared for whereas if they move in and the d!cor and maintenance are poor I would have thought tenants were less likely to be so concerned about caring for things themselves.

But it shouldn't really be your concern. You hand it over, you get it back - they are responsible for costs if they've mistreated it.

You're not allowing people their Yuman Rights!

The right to live how they wish ......

It's part of the risk LLs undertake.

Doctors expect to catch colds/diseases.
NDG and her type expect to be molested/abused on their way into the courtroom.
LLs expect that some tenants might not live a life of being able to levitate over the carpets and never knock/dent anything.

All the choices made when the decision-making's done.

PasturesNew

Generali wrote: »

Should I go up to the school to complain or do I accept that in the C21st my kids should expect to have words like that in the music they hear in school?

Complain, complain, complain.
It's not acceptable. Yes, they'll hear and use those words themselves pretty soon ...... but not today and not at school.

PasturesNew

When I was 8-10 I remember still listening to little Hansel and Gretel singles!

I also remember, distinctly, being aged 11 and on my last ever day of Junior school, coming out of the classroom and going straight onto the swings next door on the village green. There were 4-5 of us and I can remember singing out loud "School's out for summer" by Alice Cooper.... and thinking that was terribly outrageous and "naughty" as he looked a bit wild and those words seemed a bit rebellious

If an adult had come past I'd have stopped singing it for fear of being told off!

Generali

Look, I'm not a believer in censorship really but there are limits.

There isn't an imposed watershed here but there is an informal one on terrestrial TV. The trouble is it doesn't apply to adverts and trailers so you'll be watching some bit of daytime TV and suddenly there'll be an ad for CSI or one of those gore fests that are basically pornography with violence rather than sex. That bugs me but not enough to do something about this.

This I am actually quite annoyed about.

silvercar

Generali wrote: »

A moral conundrum for the nice people.

As I said earlier, I was at the school fete today. The school is for children between the ages of 4.5 and 12. In between the bands that were on they had some pop music playing, in the course of 3 songs the words/phrases, "sl u t", "o ral se x" and "motherf c uker" were pretty clearly heard along with the normal misogynistic crap that goes along with music of that sort.

Should I go up to the school to complain or do I accept that in the C21st my kids should expect to have words like that in the music they hear in school?

Do both, complain that the school shouldn't be playing music like that and also accept that your children will hear it somewhere.

neverdespairgirl

I'm not surprised you are annoyed.

The language would trouble me, but the constant diet of "treat women like nasty sex objects for your pleasure" would actually bother me more. Children might very well hear that outside school, but it shouldn't be reinforced in places of education, and certainly not in primary schools.

Generali

Well I'm off work on Monday so that'll give me something to do with my day.

lostinrates

neverdespairgirl wrote: »

I'm not surprised you are annoyed.

The language would trouble me, but the constant diet of "treat women like nasty sex objects for your pleasure" would actually bother me more. Children might very well hear that outside school, but it shouldn't be reinforced in places of education, and certainly not in primary schools.

Well, at least until the women are old enough to make that decision to be treated like that themselves.


There was something this week either on tv or radio four discussing that men were increasingly feeling this pressure too, and that things said to the men on strictly come dancing would be allowed to be said to women because they were offensively objectifying. That's vague recollection from me. But probably true in some strata of society.

PasturesNew

Gave in as it's freezing here and put the heating on - boiler's clicking on/off like a good 'un. It did this last year - it eventually works.... engineer bloke said it's the solenoid I think and it might go on for years like that......

I think my body is unable to tell that it's actually freezing, as opposed to just a bit nippy. Can't feel my feet and last night I lost half a leg. So maybe I need to buy a good thermometer so I can see when it's actually cold and not "just me" or just a bit nippy.

Looking at live weather it's 46F/8C out there - but I'm north facing..... need a thermometer in here to really know as that's not cold is it.