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Nice People Thread Part 9 - and so it continues

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  • Spirit_2
    Spirit_2 Posts: 5,546 Forumite
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    silvercar wrote: »
    I once worked Tuesdays and Thursday in a team where everyone else was full time. By Tuesday morning I was totally out of the loop on everything that had gone on since Thurday afternoon, even though when planning my days I had thought Friday was a very unproductive day. After a while I was so marginalised that there wasn't really enough work for me to do.

    It is a risk, and I will have to manage relationships and communications, and adapt how it is going to make it successful to ensure I do not marginalise myself..

    It does not make business sense either.

    My redundancy package would be very expensive and I would have a pension option. It would very bad value for money to 'lose' me in that way and financially beneficial to me.

    Discriminating against me intentionally is unlikely tbh, I do trust my employer on this. Technically itwould also be unwise as I have protected characteristics, more than a working knowledge of employment rights, and usually achieve my objectives.
  • LydiaJ
    LydiaJ Posts: 8,083 Forumite
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    silvercar wrote: »
    Funding goes with the student. So if someone goes to school in a neighbouring LEA, the funding that the home county would have expected goes to the school or LEA that educates the student. For this reason LEAs are keen to keep children within area. Add to that that a school cannot discriminate to give priority to those from their own area just because of county boundaries (Greenwich ruling), though it is allowed catchment areas and catchment schools. It also raises school transport issues, if the nearest school is across a boundary that shouldn't cause a problem in providing transport (or costs) in accordance with the normal rules.

    Thank you. This is funding from central government, is it?
    Spirit wrote: »
    Significant decisions being made here.

    OH and I have made the decision that I will reduce my work commitments. I want to move to working 3 days a week from January. Not working condensed hours or long days about 24 hours a week.

    Yesterday I discussed it with the four senior managers who report directly to me, so that makes it "real", and they will help me put a plan together on how my workload could change or be covered in another way.

    My GP thinks this a good idea and I am seeing occupational health to get their support.

    Then I will put it to my director.

    On the financial side there is a reduced salary, reduced pension and reduced life cover.

    We will need to budget more wisely and I will need to make sure I do not work full time but get paid part-time.

    The working pattern is undecided, my OH wants me to have 4 days off in a row, I want to work Mondays as there is a key communication meeting then. One of my team has alos suggested I work three days in a block as they believe that if I break the week up i some way I will do emails, take calls and think work on the 'off days'.

    NP thoughts welcome.

    I find the thing is to divide the week up into three categories -
    * times I will usually be at work or doing work at home (for me this is currently Tues, Thurs & Fri)
    * times I will not usually work, but could if the work requires it (currently Wed & Sat)
    * times when I will not under any circumstances do any work or work-related activity (currently Sun & Mon)
    I do not allow myself to miss a "no work at all" day, but on occasions I swap them - do some urgent work on a Monday but take the Wednesday off, for example.

    That way I have enough flexibility to respond to the requirements of the job, without being led astray into working more than my 50% contract warrants.

    Psychologically, I find it helpful to regard the "no work at all" days in a positive rather than negative light - this is a day when I am supposed to be resting or recharging or having a life or getting things done at home or whatever it is, and the reason why I must not do any work is because it would stop me doing these important things.

    One day I will arrive at "normal" again and have energy and motivation and so on. Not sure how long it's going to take though...
    fc123 wrote: »
    If you can afford to do it I would....I am feeling like bad non-attentive NP as I didn't realise you weren't well...sorry I must have missed the posts.

    Neither did I. Or else I did know but then it slipped my mind again. V sorry. :o
    Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
    Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
    Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.
    :)
  • LydiaJ
    LydiaJ Posts: 8,083 Forumite
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    vivatifosi wrote: »
    Spirit you know about this stuff so I'm sure you've got this covered. However if you are in a final salary scheme, the scheme hit from being part time can be extremely punitive. My only advice is to take advice if that could affect you. I know a few women who have come a cropper going part time towards the end of their career.

    Final salary schemes should treat part-timers as earning the full-time salary but for less of the year. So if you work 60% of full-time for a whole year, that should as 60% of a year at the proper full-timers' rate. So losing hours is OK, as long as you don't give up extra responsibilities and move down to a lower salary point.
    Nikkster wrote: »
    I didn't think that I had any giddy teenager left, but apparently there is, it just needed re-awakening (by someone at a very safe distance and safely spoken for).

    :T:beer::j
    Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
    Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
    Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.
    :)
  • Nikkster
    Nikkster Posts: 6,391 Forumite
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    LydiaJ wrote: »
    :T:beer::j

    Trying to get my feet back on the ground slightly (but not too much) - I think its partly because when I've managed to not feel so scared about buying a massive house on my own, I think about how nice it would have been to share the experience with someone else. And also just the novelty of meeting someone who is very much (and openly) lovely in combination with being very easy on the eye (and according to a friend 'just my type') who isn't married with children.
  • vivatifosi
    vivatifosi Posts: 18,746 Forumite
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    LydiaJ wrote: »
    Final salary schemes should treat part-timers as earning the full-time salary but for less of the year. So if you work 60% of full-time for a whole year, that should as 60% of a year at the proper full-timers' rate. So losing hours is OK, as long as you don't give up extra responsibilities and move down to a lower salary point.

    My understanding is that it depends on the scheme rules and handbook. A lot of schemes do what you say, ie accrual takes longer, but my understanding is that this is not always the case hence why it is worth checking.

    something different but my scheme has a point in the handbook stating that inflation is measured according to current govt rates. The change from RPI to CPI means my accrual going forward will be lower. This is an unintended consequence of when the guidelines were drafted. However when I retire, I'll go back to RPI because at that point it is written back in again in the scheme rules. I think if you are in a big professional scheme these will be better drafted than a little backwater one.
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  • LydiaJ
    LydiaJ Posts: 8,083 Forumite
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    vivatifosi wrote: »
    My understanding is that it depends on the scheme rules and handbook. A lot of schemes do what you say, ie accrual takes longer, but my understanding is that this is not always the case hence why it is worth checking.

    something different but my scheme has a point in the handbook stating that inflation is measured according to current govt rates. The change from RPI to CPI means my accrual going forward will be lower. This is an unintended consequence of when the guidelines were drafted. However when I retire, I'll go back to RPI because at that point it is written back in again in the scheme rules. I think if you are in a big professional scheme these will be better drafted than a little backwater one.

    Certainly agree it's good to check. I know I only really know about the TPS, so that's why I said schemes "should" rather than "do" calculate things this way. Here's hoping Spirit's one does.
    Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
    Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
    Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.
    :)
  • Nikkster
    Nikkster Posts: 6,391 Forumite
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    vivatifosi wrote: »
    I think if you are in a big professional scheme these will be better drafted than a little backwater one.

    It's still blimming confusing though (and I'd generally consider myself as relatively literate and numerate).
  • Spirit_2
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    fc123 wrote: »



    That's the hard bit isn't it as nowadays we can be 'on call' 24/7 whether we like it or not.

    Would they employ someone to do the remaining 2 days on a job share? I assume it's a FT job so would have to recruit someone to do the extra work or FT then create you a new PT role instead?

    If you can afford to do it I would....I am feeling like bad non-attentive NP as I didn't realise you weren't well...sorry I must have missed the posts.

    It is hard to switch off and been too easy to just keep working.

    I will propose giving up some work to someone else, who would want the responsibility and who should probably be doing it. My plan is that I keep my job, but do it PT...I have to negotiate it.

    Affordability is OK. We did this before when OH down shifted from an American Corp to a charity. Will be about £1200 month net down which is fine, gross it is a lot (to me) but my pension contributions are significant so there is a benefit in just getting into the lower tax levels. No special current illhealth, nothing posted recently, just long term conditions and I need to start taking care of myself. When I had a by pass the week before my 43rd birthday I was told that the grafts averaged 15 years. I am 53 now. Need to eat less, move more, less stress.

    For the first time in my adult life I want to spend more time with my family and friends than I spend in the office. I have never said or felt that before.

    I will probably go a bit MSE crazy for a while and get fulfilled by doing old style stuff :)
  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
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    Nikkster wrote: »

    FC - I have to say that you did mention Mr FCs pecs a lot last week ;) I'm pretty sure there is giddiness look for it :D

    love was definitely in the air last week. :D. FC and mr FC are such a great couple, so relaxing and yet enthusing to be around.
  • Nikkster
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    love was definitely in the air last week. :D. FC and mr FC are such a great couple, so relaxing and yet enthusing to be around.

    From Mr and Mrs InRates too :D
    If I hadn't been feeling slightly giddy, I might have been feeling more than a little jealous and nauseous :D
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