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Tailgate and speed

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  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
    You mention two specific situations only. I was talking in general terms.

    Two common issues associated with cyclists actually.

    and that's better than 'general terms'.
  • Jamie_Carter
    Jamie_Carter Posts: 5,282 Forumite
    Guest101 wrote: »
    Uh, i dont hate them? I just think that it should be licenced and insured to be on the road?

    The fact is 90% of drivers dont do anything wrong to me either, but they still licenced, insured, road worthy etc.

    But hey, cyclists cant take criticism either...

    How many car drivers do you know of who have been killed by cyclists???
  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
    Cycrow wrote: »
    i always stop at red lights, and im often along side other cycles who do as well.

    just as many cars jump red lights as cyclists (more infact as theres more cars on the road)

    i do see cyclists jump red lights, but i also see alot of cars that do as well.

    compulsory licensing doesn't stop drivers from behaving badly and breaking the rules, so why would it for cyclist ?
    also many cyclists already do have insurance.

    im just surprised u havn't mentioned road tax yet


    It's emissions tax actually....

    Licencing helps, and registering bikes with a number plate would certainly help track down the person responsible.
  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
    How many car drivers do you know of who have been killed by cyclists???

    I know neither cyclists killed by drivers, nor drivers killed by cyclists.

    Doesnt mean neither hasnt happened...
  • Jamie_Carter
    Jamie_Carter Posts: 5,282 Forumite
    Then please post a link to this new legislation.

    Stop being lazy, and go and find it yourself.

    It seems that you are arrogant enough to think that just because you don't know something, that it must be wrong. You have proved this in many threads where all you do is troll.
  • Jamie_Carter
    Jamie_Carter Posts: 5,282 Forumite
    Guest101 wrote: »
    Two common issues associated with cyclists actually.

    and that's better than 'general terms'.

    Not as common as you make out though.
  • Jamie_Carter
    Jamie_Carter Posts: 5,282 Forumite
    Guest101 wrote: »

    Licencing helps, and registering bikes with a number plate would certainly help track down the person responsible.

    Yes I do agree with this.
  • Cycrow
    Cycrow Posts: 2,639 Forumite
    I personally dont think licensing will help at all.
    those that cycle alot will continue to do so, just with a licence. And most likly continue to cycle the same way, as many have had proper training always

    The cyclists that just break all the rules on the road, will continue to do so, they will just add another rule to break (ie no licence).

    It'll only effect the children who might want to cycle, and the people who dont really cycle that often.

    Bike registration has been tried in a number of countries, they have all scrapped the idea as it didn't really work and was too expensive to maintain.

    But if licensing for cyclist will be compulsory, then i think it should also be included in driver training
  • Lum
    Lum Posts: 6,460 Forumite
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    Sounds like you are making excuses for bullying and intimidating behaviour from HGV drivers, I actually do leave a good gap, however, unforeseen situations do occur, maybe the cause of the incident happened in lane 2 from an overtaking vehicle, with vehicle or deris coming in to lane 1, as a professional driver, the truck driver should be considering every eventuality and clearly the driver of a 44 tonne truck is gambling with peoples lives by deliberately not leaving sufficient stopping distance.

    There is a fine line between giving advice and victim-blaming, especially on a topic like this, however the way I look at things is:

    1) You can't stop the tailgaters tailgating, only the police have any hope of this and there aren't enough of those to go around.

    2) You can modify your own driving. Note that this doesn't necessarily mean you should, e.g. I would never recommend that someone exceed the speed limit just to appease a tailgater.

    3) Your own driving, and observation, are the only things you have any control over while out on the road, if you wish to have fewer incidences of tailgating then this is the only area where you can make a difference.

    4) Motoring forums tend to be male-dominated and so posts like the OPs will be met with practical advice rather than a sympathetic response, as well as the usual trolls of course. While I do have sympathy for the OP - nobody should be bullied, whether on the road or elsewhere - sympathy, from a complete stranger from miles away probably doesn't help much, so I respond with suggestions as to why it may happen and what can be done to prevent it.

    5) If it really is a wildly inaccurate speedo, think of how much of the OPs time has been wasted during the course of owning this particular car, as well as all the people who have gotten wound up and unnecessarily delayed by it. One fix and the OP will suddenly find themselves with more free hours in the day, isn't that worth something?

    Is that really such a bad thing to do?
  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
    Cycrow wrote: »
    I personally dont think licensing will help at all.
    those that cycle alot will continue to do so, just with a licence. And most likly continue to cycle the same way, as many have had proper training always

    The cyclists that just break all the rules on the road, will continue to do so, they will just add another rule to break (ie no licence).

    It'll only effect the children who might want to cycle, and the people who dont really cycle that often.

    Bike registration has been tried in a number of countries, they have all scrapped the idea as it didn't really work and was too expensive to maintain.

    But if licensing for cyclist will be compulsory, then i think it should also be included in driver training

    What should be included in driver training?
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