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becky_rtw wrote: »

You recommend or you insist that we go on the health boards?

Suggestion only for now.

There needs to be a new thread however. It would be nice if Pania could start that off.

hypno06

I understand the need for a new thread, but Please don't move it from the DFW board.

Idiophreak

Hmm...tough call...I don't really care where it ends up, have no feelings either way...actually, that's not true, I have feelings both ways...

On the one hand, it *is* DFW - I save heaps of money on gym membership running instead (OK, so I spend twice as much again on gadgets, but shhh!) - and it is all to do with the DFW community. On the other hand, certain members - myself included - won't really view themselves as DFW, so not sure if it really counts.

There are many exercise/health boards on the other forum and I guess we'd get more people *looking* for this kinda thread over there - but I quite like that this board reaches out to people who might not necessarily go looking for it...

Of course, I only ever come here through UCP, anyway, so doesn't matter to me...I'll let the people with stronger opinions ram their heads together

beer_tins

I guess it's up to the mods. I'll continue posting either way.

There are threads on here about giving up smoking/drinking/gambling which are only partially to do with being a DFW. That is obviously part of the aim, but most of the content is about those particular issues, rather than being a DFW. Similarly posters here are DFW (OK I'm debt free now, but wasn't when I started!), we run partially because it's a cheap form of exercise and some of the content is about where to get cheap gear/what gear we think is necessary etc.

Like many threads, it straddles two areas and a lot of threads would have to move if the same logic is applied. Like idio, I'll sit back and let others fight it out though, as I don't have strong feelings about it either way. As long as it carries on somewhere I'm sure we'll all keep posting.

And I thought it was 10,000 posts before a new thread is started? Either way, it's getting about time!

RichOneday_2

Ooo its been a busy day on here.

First of all, I'm impressed by all the advice given to Leothecat earlier on - all very sound and sensible.:D

As far as moving the thread is concerned, I'm not sure I understand the pros and cons too well. Although I am usually of the mind that if it aint broke dont fix it!

I can certainly understand the need to start a new thread from a resources point of view, that makes total sense.

One big argument for keeping it in DFW is that debt is one of the most stressful experiences encountered for most people and running is, almost without exception, the best stress reliever known to man - I'd say the relevance is extremely high and the target audience correct. Just my opinion of course!

MrsTinks

becky_rtw wrote: »

You recommend or you insist that we go on the health boards?

Happy to do a new thread - not happy about moving boards...

Edit: sorry being a grumpy so and so today - a case of shooting the messenger there...but its a question for the other mods I guess since they moved off the book club the other day I've been suspecting this would happen...

Actually as far as I know we DIDN'T move off the suggested book club - I pointed out that the DFW was getting swamped with clubs and daily threads There is no "there will be no Running club" or "ban all clubs" thing going on here - we are trying to find a solution to the board often getting swamped with threads that are possibly better suited to other boards making it easier for people in desperate need for urgent financial advice - at one point the other evening I counted the first 9 threads on the board as either clubs, daily hello threads or threads that could arguably be said not to be directly DFW... Threads with cries for help and mentioning deep depression and even thoughts of suicide had been pushed without any replies to page 2 and even to page 3... THAT is why I have brought it up with the other BGs and MSE towers
It's being discussed and debated and we certainly haven't reached any decisions and nor would we chop it without running it past Martin or his team

Regardless THIS thread has to be closed (actually should have been MANY posts ago :rotfl: 9000+ is WAY too big and does cause problems ) but the question is where the new one should be opened...

I did have a thought earlier today which was that there ARE a lot of clubs etc and maybe if we made a sticky on DFW and linked to all the clubs on the boards that they might be better off on we could still have a link to them on here, but they would be in the areas they ougth to be? Like for example the running club on the health board
Just a thought!!!

MrsT

Idiophreak

As far as I can see, the *main* gripe with moving these things away, is that they're used by the DFW community and it *does* help to build that feeling having the boards local...maybe, then, we could get ourselves a new sub-board or something for clubs and chat....

I do agree that "serious" newbie threads shouldn't be lost amongst regulars' nattering...

RichOneday_2

Leothecat wrote: »

Hi, I hope you don't mind me joining in? I have been reading your thread for quite a while and have just plucked up the courage to post.
My mum sadly passed away last August. A few weeks later an old friend who I had lost touch with, bumped into my husband and found out about my mother. Anyway, she started stalking me (in a nice way) and we met up for coffee. I have gained quite a bit of weight since we last saw each other and we got to talking about this. She has done a lot of running in the past and asked me if I would be interested in training with her for the Race for Life 5K in May. I kind of laughed but agreed, thinking that I would not like it as I never have enjoyed running before and that I could back out after a few sessions.
Anyway, we started in October - 1st evening out was lashing down with rain. We did walk 5 mins warm up, run 1, walk 1 x 5 - OMG it nearly killed me! I had no idea how unfit I was! We continued our training 3 x per week - Mon, Wed & Fri mornings following the race for life Reebok walk run walk training plan. This is a 6 week plan which you should then follow with the 6 week run plan. Unfortunately, during the 4th week I started to experience a dull pain in my right leg - starting at the ankle and working it's way up to the middle of my shin. I ignored it but it just got worse and by the end of week 5 I was in real pain but continued running because it seemed to ease after running for about 8 mins. However, one I stopped running it was straight back and boy was it sore. Everyone had an opinion on what it was - shin splints. I read up on the condition and certainly it did seem possible but I'm not a dr. I took the advice - took Ibruben, iced it and elevated the leg. Over Xmas I was not able to run and was gutted.
We started running again 3 weeks ago and are revisiting the 1st 6 weeks training. I am however getting a niggling pain in the same spot each time I run and am terrifed that the same problem is returning! Is there any way to aviod this? We have changed the warm up to 10 mins - with gentle stretches after 8 mins. After the run I am spending a long time ensuring good stretching but I don't know if this is helping.
I am enjoying the running so much - I would never have believed on that 1st evening back in October that 6 weeks later I would be running for 2 x 15 mins during 1 seesion with only 1 min recovery. For me that is amazing.
I am overweight and this is helping me - the motivation not to eat crap after having a run is brilliant.

Leothecat,

The problem is that the body is not really capable of going from no running to regular running in one step. It has to be prepared and then gently cajoled into taking on a workload it doesnt really understand.

As you start to run, during the first 6-12 weeks there is a slow demineralisation of the bones in the lower legs ie they become weaker and more vulnerable.

By going straight into running the lower limbs are taking on too much of the overall workload and, therefore, the demineralisation is worsened causing various potential injuries including stress fractures.

Shin splints are always an indication that the work being done is too intense for the current state of the lower limbs. This is usually hard to understand because they are generally encountered when running is still at a very slow pace and over a short distance. It doesn't matter, shin splints will normally kick in between 1/2 mile - 1 mile into a run and are a sure sign that the body hasn't been prepared properly.

Many people accept that running involves being injured on a regular basis and have very hit and miss training routines, but it is not inevitable.

As has already been said, the first stage is to build 'core strength', principally in the buttocks and lower back. The best way of doing this is through walking, ideally walks of 4+ miles and with some hills involved if possible.

Professional marathon training programmes generally insist on a minimum of 6 weeks, and sometimes up to 12 weeks, of predominantly walking before even thinking about taking on a regular running schedule. This basically applies to anyone who hasn't run for at least 12 months or someone beginnning from scratch.

The good news, as Becky mentioned, is that this stage burns more fat per mile than running and therefore increases the power/weight ratio from 2 directions - stronger muscles and lower weight.

After about 4 weeks it is okay to start the odd session off as a run. If you would normally do a 6 mile walk, for instance, set off running and if you are comfortable to 3 miles and then start to feel a little strain, then stop and walk the remaining 3 miles. Do not restart - that is the way to create unnecessary muscle tear. Eventually, you will run the whole route. At this stage you will be ready to run every 3 days. Once you are fully recovered after 48 hours you can then bring that down to running every 2 days and so on.

It might sound like slow laborious work, but trust me this is the quickest way of making progress, getting fit and losing weight!:D

becky_rtw

Okay my big problem with the health board is this (please dont shoot me its just my opinion) - they are mostly about diets - dieting is bad for the body and mind, its a short term thing and it perpetuates the idea that people are overweight because of something wrong with them (rather than eating too much or doing too little) - weight loss may be a side effect of running but running is not exclusively about weight loss and frankly I dont want the thread to be about that anyway - its caused arguments in the past for one.

I'd rather not be confronted with a board full of dieters every time I post on the running thread so if it moves over there I'm afraid I'm out and on PM for questions only - sorry guys its a personal thing, but family issues mean I'm very tetchy around dieters and there's a particular thread over there which I think promotes a extremely unhealthy lifestyle.

Hence what the strop was about earlier...I hope that makes sense MSEers and I'm not saying this to try and change the course of action - the consensus seems to be its fine moved over there so thats okay with me

RichOneday_2

My main concern is that its called 'Health AND Beauty' rather than 'Health OR beauty'!

So I'd never be allowed in !!!!:p

But that is an excellent point Becky - there's a big difference between a running theme and a dieting theme and I can't think of anything that would send me into psychotic meltdown quicker than seeing a series of posts about Slimfast this and Cambridge that.

So, I'm afraid I'd be out on the same basis if that were to happen.......it just wouldn't be of any interest. And I do tend to agree, now that you've pointed it out, that it would be kind of inevitable in that arena!