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becky_rtw

RichOneday wrote: »

Me run today? You're having a laugh - the clock still says 'AM'!

And yes I know that makes you feel VERY smug but I can live with it!!!

Again, you've impressed me - that was a good session with some nice long sustained bursts. There's nothing wrong with being a little tired at the end, as you know, as this is intended to be a tough but enjoyable workout. (And besides, a bit of tiredness means less energy for cheek and backchat for the rest of the day ).

One little point - be a bit careful going directly from race pace to stopping at the end. There should be a decent jog recovery to end the session but other than that good stuff.

PS With LM charity places make sure you check what the 'minimum sponsorship' is for the charity in question. The reason there is so many of these 'Golden Bond' places is that the LM sell them to the charities for about £200 (yes, it sounds odd taking money from charities, but it works for the charities so thats how it is!).

In turn the charities then have to make sure they make more than this back - often they have minimum sponsorship in the region of £1500-£2000. This is a lot of money in £1, £2 and £5 sponsorship deals. Runners often end up writing some sort of cheque themselves to the charity which, to me, leaves an uncomfortable feeling all round.

Okay will do about the end jog - need to get up those steps and hill anyway...

I'm thinking of running back tonight as well to try out some different combinations, plus the endorphins have just hit and I want more (I missed them last week when I was ill:rotfl:), plus I feel like I did drop quite a bit of fitness last week so I need to get it back...

Oh yeah the guy mentioned that - there's no minimum as the charity is connected to my work (sorry I dont want to say too much incase I cant get a place and you never know who's reading...). He did say other charities put laods of pressure on you to raise money but that they didnt do that :T, but he doesn't control places so I'm trying to find out who does...

Anyway, ave fun running tonight!:D

sallyx

becky_rtw wrote: »

Sorry Sally I think they need people with a connection to the charity...I'm a slim one due to my work...but I'll wait and see what they confirm and let you know! :cool:

Thats OK thought I would ask Should hear about ballot place next week or week after :eek: :eek:

RichOneday_2

becky_rtw wrote: »

Okay will do about the end jog - need to get up those steps and hill anyway...

I'm thinking of running back tonight as well to try out some different combinations, plus the endorphins have just hit and I want more (I missed them last week when I was ill:rotfl:), plus I feel like I did drop quite a bit of fitness last week so I need to get it back...

Oh yeah the guy mentioned that - there's no minimum as the charity is connected to my work (sorry I dont want to say too much incase I cant get a place and you never know who's reading...). He did say other charities put laods of pressure on you to raise money but that they didnt do that :T, but he doesn't control places so I'm trying to find out who does...

Anyway, ave fun running tonight!:D

No you didn't! (and don't argue - cos you didn't!) (Thats me being authoritative btw:p).

Now I can understand you wanting more (you were warned) but don't do anything other than light jogging if you do run tonight. I want you fit not injured!

becky_rtw

RichOneday wrote: »

No you didn't! (and don't argue - cos you didn't!) (Thats me being authoritative btw:p).

Now I can understand you wanting more (you were warned) but don't do anything other than light jogging if you do run tonight. I want you fit not injured!

If I didnt how come my runs this week have been so much harder - even the usual 3 mile on Monday?

Okay I promise to be good and only lightly jog! Got the 7.5 miles on Sunday anyway and might squeeze in another 4 before then as well - so that would only be a 21.5 mile week argh need to find some more miles from somewhere!:rotfl:

RichOneday_2

becky_rtw wrote: »

If I didnt how come my runs this week have been so much harder - even the usual 3 mile on Monday?

Okay I promise to be good and only lightly jog! Got the 7.5 miles on Sunday anyway and might squeeze in another 4 before then as well - so that would only be a 21.5 mile week argh need to find some more miles from somewhere!:rotfl:

At least I didn't get accused of being bossy!

There's a big difference between feeling sluggish and 'losing fitness'. Runners refer to it as 'the cobwebs'.

What is basically happening when you run most days is that waste products produced within your system are flushed away by the regular high-rate blood flow. When you have a few days downtime these waste products don't get flushed away as easily so linger around.

You can simulate this with one heavy night out as a deluge of waste products sit in your system the next day. Now you wouldn't even think about suggesting that you've lost fitness overnight in this situation but its the same thing.

When you get back into the swing of things it takes a couple of days to get the system cleaned out again. But you have NOT lost fitness.

So there!!

becky_rtw

RichOneday wrote: »

At least I didn't get accused of being bossy!

There's a big difference between feeling sluggish and 'losing fitness'. Runners refer to it as 'the cobwebs'.

What is basically happening when you run most days is that waste products produced within your system are flushed away by the regular high-rate blood flow. When you have a few days downtime these waste products don't get flushed away as easily so linger around.

You can simulate this with one heavy night out as a deluge of waste products sit in your system the next day. Now you wouldn't even think about suggesting that you've lost fitness overnight in this situation but its the same thing.

When you get back into the swing of things it takes a couple of days to get the system cleaned out again. But you have NOT lost fitness.

So there!!

Okay thanks coach I feel much better now I was getting a bit frustrated with being so rubbish this week!

You are bossy, but we love it

(Land_of)_Maz

very bossy!

RichOneday_2

jinky67 wrote: »

Big Announcement Folks


I WENT RUNNING:j :T :j :T :j :T


I did..... 1 on 3 off x 4
and actually didnt feel too bad:D

Am i ready for a marathon now then?:rotfl:

Woohoo, we have another runner!

Sorry to disappoint but its at least a week before a marathon is likely!

Now, just a bit of a question about what you actually did? Was that 1min running, 3min walking repeated 4 times?

If so, and you do see this sort of thing promoted all over the place, I cringe to see people doing these sessions especially on untrained muscles. It is too hard and too dangerous in terms of potential injury.

Instead, I would always say pick a distance 1/2 mile, 1 mile, 2 mile whatever. Then jog very easily (the longer the stride length and the faster you run the more risk of injury) for as far into the route as you can comfortably manage. Don't push it beyond where you feel comfortable - you won't gain anything from doing so!

Once you've stopped, walk the rest of the route. Do not restart jogging because your muscles will be contracting quite tightly to protect themselves and that means you risk causing more muscle tear.

Over 1 mile you will burn the same calories no matter what proportion is walked or run. And personally, I think you should look to increase the amount of walking before jogging to strengthen tendons and ligaments to make you more ready for running later. Most of my current training is walking as you'll see from the diary.

So, well done but, because as I am injury averse in the extreme, I would suggest jog then walk sessions rather than jog,walk,jog,walk,jog etc!

RichOneday_2

becky_rtw wrote: »

Okay thanks coach I feel much better now I was getting a bit frustrated with being so rubbish this week!

You are bossy, but we love it

You know its for your own good!:p

(Land_of)_Maz

Righto - we need to talk about this run/walk thing..... let's have a debate!

it is absolutely the only way i would have ever began to consider running... and bearing in mind that i still have been known to have the odd walk break :whistle: and have thusfar avoided major injury or strain (touching wood as we speak)

i think it is wrong to be so dismissive of it as a training tool in the very early stages.... some people i.e. me, would not manage to run at all if it weren't broken down into manageable chunks.... (minutes/seconds as opposed to half miles/miles)

this run/walk thing is advocated in Runners world, by Jog Scotland, on the RFL website as a running plan... to name but a few. All of which are regular first ports of call for newbie runners... how can they possibly all the wrong?

Surely the risk of harm by doing run/walk is far outweighed by the benefits of doing some sort of activity.... i.e. better to run the riskof getting shin splints by run walking than getting heart disease and diabetes by not..... lesser of two evils.

If run/walk makes it manageable for a new person like i was... then can it really be a bad thing....

and yes i totally get the tight muscles more likely to damage thing... but i still think we risk alienating a whole raft of newbies if we are anti run/walk and go against popular literature and advice.........

< steps down off soap box>

That's me finished now...