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  • Denning.
    Denning. Posts: 2,749 Forumite
    How rude can you be? With high unemployment etc tgeres loads who go for each job plus too many companies use the unemployed as forced labour
    If people are applying etc then why do so any falsely claim it's the unemployed persons fault? That's a similar message many WP use going by the medias news reports

    Reciprocating rudeness is less rude than the original act of rudeness.

    You are spouting the same propaganda which has no relevance to anything I have said in the post you quoted.

    People have and continue to not wish to work, because the wage they could earn is marginally better than what they currently get. They think 'Why should I spend 40 hours a week working only to be £10 a week better off?'.

    At no point have I said that all people think like this, you seem defensive and feel the need to talk in absolutes.
  • Denning. wrote: »
    Reciprocating rudeness is less rude than the original act of rudeness.

    You are spouting the same propaganda which has no relevance to anything I have said in the post you quoted.

    People have and continue to not wish to work, because the wage they could earn is marginally better than what they currently get. They think 'Why should I spend 40 hours a week working only to be £10 a week better off?'.

    At no point have I said that all people think like this, you seem defensive and feel the need to talk in absolutes.
    you have twisted stuff plus you ignore how bad the job situation actually is
  • dandelionclock30
    dandelionclock30 Posts: 3,235 Forumite
    edited 26 October 2013 at 6:21PM
    Denning. wrote: »
    Reciprocating rudeness is less rude than the original act of rudeness.

    You are spouting the same propaganda which has no relevance to anything I have said in the post you quoted.

    People have and continue to not wish to work, because the wage they could earn is marginally better than what they currently get. They think 'Why should I spend 40 hours a week working only to be £10 a week better off?'.

    At no point have I said that all people think like this, you seem defensive and feel the need to talk in absolutes.

    You seem to believe everything that the Tories tell you. Do you honestly believe all the millions of unemployed in this country dont want to work because they would be better off on benefits? if you do then you are a moron.
    Theres about 25,000 signing on in my city, not counting all those that are not classed as unemployed but not working and wanting a job. All these people would not get away with lying to the Jobcentre if there was available work. They would have been pushed into it ages ago.
    Im sorry but you are really stupid and ignorant.
  • scooby088
    scooby088 Posts: 3,385 Forumite
    You seem to believe everything that the Tories tell you. Do you honestly believe all the millions of unemployed in this country dont want to work because they would be better off on benefits? if you do then you are a moron.
    Theres about 25,000 signing on in my city, not counting all those that are not classed as unemployed but not working and wanting a job. All these people would not get away with lying to the Jobcentre if there was available work. They would have been pushed into it ages ago.
    Im sorry but you are really stupid and ignorant.

    When I used to sign on the majority wanted a job, but you could always see the ones who didn't want to work they stuck out like a sore thumb. And yes they knew how to lie to the jobcentre plus anyone long term unemployed would go on the sick and start claiming esa or some other benefit to get out of signing on once a fortnight.
  • Denning.
    Denning. Posts: 2,749 Forumite
    you have twisted stuff plus you ignore how bad the job situation actually is

    You seem to believe everything that the Tories tell you. Do you honestly believe all the millions of unemployed in this country dont want to work because they would be better off on benefits? if you do then you are a moron.
    Theres about 25,000 signing on in my city, not counting all those that are not classed as unemployed but not working and wanting a job. All these people would not get away with lying to the Jobcentre if there was available work. They would have been pushed into it ages ago.
    Im sorry but you are really stupid and ignorant.

    I'm not sure if you are both trolling, not reading what I post or have serious comprehension problems.
  • Denning.
    Denning. Posts: 2,749 Forumite
    scooby088 wrote: »
    When I used to sign on the majority wanted a job, but you could always see the ones who didn't want to work they stuck out like a sore thumb. And yes they knew how to lie to the jobcentre plus anyone long term unemployed would go on the sick and start claiming esa or some other benefit to get out of signing on once a fortnight.

    You are, and I quote the lovely post above you 'stupid and ignorant' for thinking that all people choose to be on benefits.
  • Denning. wrote: »
    I'm not sure if you are both trolling, not reading what I post or have serious comprehension problems.

    You are trolling it seems
    You don't acknowledge the amount of unemployed or how terrible the jobs situation is
  • Denning.
    Denning. Posts: 2,749 Forumite
    You are trolling it seems
    You don't acknowledge the amount of unemployed or how terrible the jobs situation is

    I haven't made any claims to the contrary. I wasn't aware you had to make some affirmation before you had standing in this forum.
  • AP007
    AP007 Posts: 7,109 Forumite
    edited 26 October 2013 at 11:39PM
    Denning. wrote: »
    If anyone thinks some people don't choose benefits over a job they are a bigger moron. There is countless documented cases of people admitting to not wanting to work because the few extra quid doesn't justify the loss of 40 hours a week.

    You're ignorance is just to reinforce your world view that nothing is your fault, tragic really.
    I am pretty sure if a job was more than JSA and you are only getting JSA you wouldn't turn it down hence then not choosing to be on benefits would not be better off.

    I can assure you that losing a job and then getting only JSA does not make you better off and I am not on JSA through choice.

    I do not see how its my fault I am on JSA
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  • Denning. wrote: »
    I haven't made any claims to the contrary. I wasn't aware you had to make some affirmation before you had standing in this forum.

    Understanding why employment exists is something you show a lack of
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