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  • donnajunkie
    donnajunkie Posts: 32,412 Forumite
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    AP007 wrote: »
    you can not just create jobs you have to bring a law in like in NYC where you are not allowed to discriminate against the unemployed. And maybe the over qualified!
    i just mean more jobs have to exist usually by the economy improving. nyc? america isnt really known for treating the unemployed very well is it. its worse than here.
  • AP007
    AP007 Posts: 7,109 Forumite
    secondly on my diary sheet i made a mistake and put i contacted an agency on the august bank holiday when it was really the day after. they questioned it and i told them it was a mistake. whats the chances that they would sanction me for this mistake? do the rules allow them to sanction a person for such a mistake? they seemed to accept my explaination but we all know that doesnt mean they definitely did.
    Contacted them how? By phone? Yes a genuine date mistake but you could have said you emailed them!
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  • donnajunkie
    donnajunkie Posts: 32,412 Forumite
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    AP007 wrote: »
    Contacted them how? By phone? Yes a genuine date mistake but you could have said you emailed them!
    but i am required to phone according to the jsa agreement so that is what i put on the sheet. that is the stupidity of the form. they stipulate you must do certain things everyday, not every day except weekends and bank holidays.
  • AP007
    AP007 Posts: 7,109 Forumite
    but i am required to phone according to the jsa agreement so that is what i put on the sheet. that is the stupidity of the form. they stipulate you must do certain things everyday, not every day except weekends and bank holidays.
    I know as I job search EVERY DAY like I have told you with no days off.

    Call them to ask what? If they have any jobs?
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  • donnajunkie
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    AP007 wrote: »
    I know as I job search EVERY DAY like I have told you with no days off.

    Call them to ask what? If they have any jobs?
    yes i agree phoning is daft. all they do is say send us your cv or we will contact you if you are suitable for a job. i think the jobcentre thinks it will impress them so much that they will say can you start tomorrow.
    the important thing here though, is making such a mistake on my sheet a sanctionable offence.
  • AP007
    AP007 Posts: 7,109 Forumite
    yes i agree phoning is daft. all they do is say send us your cv or we will contact you if you are suitable for a job. i think the jobcentre thinks it will impress them so much that they will say can you start tomorrow.
    the important thing here though, is making such a mistake on my sheet a sanctionable offence.
    Start tomorrow where? LOL Who is paying your phone bill?
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  • donnajunkie
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    AP007 wrote: »
    Start tomorrow where? LOL Who is paying your phone bill?

    exactly. they are still going to want to see your cv and are only going to consider you if you are suitable and you still have to be better than everyone else. and i think they must think phone calls are free for the unemployed.
  • AP007
    AP007 Posts: 7,109 Forumite
    exactly. they are still going to want to see your cv and are only going to consider you if you are suitable and you still have to be better than everyone else. and i think they must think phone calls are free for the unemployed.
    Most agencies will only consider you if you are working

    Id ask the JC for the cost of the calls.
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  • Damalt
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    but i am required to phone according to the jsa agreement so that is what i put on the sheet. that is the stupidity of the form. they stipulate you must do certain things everyday, not every day except weekends and bank holidays.

    That's on mine too, but my advisor said to just ignore it. Apparently the forms are out of date :rotfl: and using email is acceptable.
  • the important thing here though, is making such a mistake on my sheet a sanctionable offence.

    Technically yes. But it will depend on how much of a rat bag the adviser is and whether they are meeting their "expectations", or what you and I call targets (for sanctions).

    But unless what you've written somehow unalterably ties it to the day you wrote it down, you would easily be able to defend any doubt raised. Everyone makes mistakes and accidentally writing a wrong date or putting something under a wrong date isn't the end of the world. Assuming this isn't something that happens regularly.

    And, by the way, this is exactly why you shouldn't write your job searches down - present them verbally instead, as you are entitled to.
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