After the Work Programme

imatt

Johnnytwostep wrote: »

if you do as you are told they wont sanction you. I say good for sanctioning and the more the merrier. Got to bring down the welfare bill.
Same as those who say shouldnt increase parking charges, I say if you dont break the rules then you wouldnt get a PCN.

Then you must also agree that Smith's much vaunted Work Program that is clearly missing all key targets AFTER TWO YEARS and is clearly not fit for purpose (and that's being rather polite) should be scrapped to bring down the welfare bill? Esp. as this govt has allocated £5 BILLION on this scheme during the life of this parliament.

busy_mom_2

imatt wrote: »

Then you must also agree that Smith's much vaunted Work Program that is clearly missing all key targets AFTER TWO YEARS and is clearly not fit for purpose (and that's being rather polite) should be scrapped to bring down the welfare bill? Esp. as this govt has allocated £5 BILLION on this scheme during the life of this parliament.

Work programme most definately shoul be scrapped.:T

donnajunkie

busy_mom wrote: »

Work programme most definately shoul be scrapped.:T

it would just get replaced with something similar. every scheme they come up with is very similar to previous schemes.

AP007

donnajunkie wrote: »

it would just get replaced with something similar. every scheme they come up with is very similar to previous schemes.

Maybe if anyone had a brain you would think they would ask the unemployed about this. Oh no hang on they have - well did at my JC and then did nothing with the feedback.

donnajunkie

AP007 wrote: »

Maybe if anyone had a brain you would think they would ask the unemployed about this. Oh no hang on they have - well did at my JC and then did nothing with the feedback.

so long as they are seen to be doing something they are happy. its enough to fool the people they need to fool.

imatt

donnajunkie wrote: »

it would just get replaced with something similar. every scheme they come up with is very similar to previous schemes.

Sad, but true. This reminds me of the classic Albert Einstein quote:

"A definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, yet expecting a different result".

We see this with New Deal, Flex New Deal and now the WP. All used the same old private providers, failing time and time again!

Chester666666

imatt wrote: »

Sad, but true. This reminds me of the classic Albert Einstein quote:

"A definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, yet expecting a different result".

We see this with New Deal, Flex New Deal and now the WP. All used the same old private providers, failing time and time again!

Makes it look like doing something wrong is better then getting it right, it's just about doing something showy with no substance

donnajunkie

imatt wrote: »

Sad, but true. This reminds me of the classic Albert Einstein quote:

"A definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, yet expecting a different result".

We see this with New Deal, Flex New Deal and now the WP. All used the same old private providers, failing time and time again!

they are unable to accept the only answer to unemployment is job creation.

AP007

donnajunkie wrote: »

they are unable to accept the only answer to unemployment is job creation.

you can not just create jobs you have to bring a law in like in NYC where you are not allowed to discriminate against the unemployed. And maybe the over qualified!

donnajunkie

my paranoia is going into overdrive today after my latest appointment. firstly early on they printed out something and put it on the desk and when they got up to do something else i looked at the print out and on it it had my name and an appointment arranged for wednesday. the print out wasnt one of the proper letters you usually get for an appointment. anyway much later i was given 2 proper letters for future appointments. i then asked what about that, isnt that for me also. their response was no thats just how they come out of the printer. so if you were me would you turn up at the jobcentre on wednesday at the time it said on that sheet just to cover yourself?
secondly on my diary sheet i made a mistake and put i contacted an agency on the august bank holiday when it was really the day after. they questioned it and i told them it was a mistake. whats the chances that they would sanction me for this mistake? do the rules allow them to sanction a person for such a mistake? they seemed to accept my explaination but we all know that doesnt mean they definitely did.