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  • seven-day-weekend
    seven-day-weekend Posts: 36,755 Forumite
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    This child WAS wanted, by the mother, and the father helped conceive it, so should help raise it.
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  • Mrs_pbradley936
    Mrs_pbradley936 Posts: 14,571 Forumite
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    This child WAS wanted, by the mother, and the father helped conceive it, so should help raise it.

    Yes and he is but the point I needed help with was whether or not he was obliged to pay for child care when the mother was saying she was caring for her. The mother is supposed to be at home all day and was until the child went to school - then she got a job. Child care became an issue due to the school holidays.

    I must admit that my original post was vague but I was trying to be concise and wanted a simple yes or no response.

    The mother is not pretending that the child is disabled so there is no suggestion of fraud. My own feeling is that she should use her DLA to pay for the care but I wanted to know if that was fair/reasonable or if she could keep that and have the father pay for care in addition to what he pays already.
  • Mojisola
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    Yes and he is but the point I needed help with was whether or not he was obliged to pay for child care when the mother was saying she was caring for her.

    As others have said, he is obliged to pay 15% of his salary. How the mother spends the money is her choice.

    If he wants to give more than 15%, there's nothing to stop him but that will be his choice.
  • Thank you so much! I should have googled rather than asked on here and been put through a slew of accusations - but I thought the idea was that everyone gave what advice they could. This is the first time I have been disappointed with some of the replies to a simple question.

    My advice is on usually on education and rents.

    The Child Maintenance Options site might also give you some useful information about coming to a family-based arrangement.

    http://www.cmoptions.org/
  • Sensemaya
    Sensemaya Posts: 1,739 Forumite
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    The Child Maintenance Options site might also give you some useful information about coming to a family-based arrangement.

    http://www.cmoptions.org/

    A private agreement is much better so when/if the NRP defaults the PWC can sue the bug*er through the courts direct. I've done it so tried and tested. It's much quicker and a lot less stressful. Oh -and you get interest added too. Nice.

    The PWC is in control and not being dictated to by a govt dinosaur.
  • Marisco
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    Yes and he is but the point I needed help with was whether or not he was obliged to pay for child care when the mother was saying she was caring for her. The mother is supposed to be at home all day and was until the child went to school - then she got a job. Child care became an issue due to the school holidays.

    I must admit that my original post was vague but I was trying to be concise and wanted a simple yes or no response.

    The mother is not pretending that the child is disabled so there is no suggestion of fraud. My own feeling is that she should use her DLA to pay for the care but I wanted to know if that was fair/reasonable or if she could keep that and have the father pay for care in addition to what he pays already.

    So long as he is paying the right amount i.e 15% of his income, then he is not obliged to pay anything else. If he wants to do it voluntarily, then that is up to him. I certainly wouldn't be paying for childcare, especially as the mother cares for the child herself, and has no extra childcare fees to pay.

    As for the grandmother wanting to be paid, I'll not say what I think of that, especially as she's not working anyway. Understandable if she was giving up work to do it, but otherwise..........................!!!
  • pipkin71
    pipkin71 Posts: 21,821 Forumite
    Hello,

    I would like an answer to a question. What is the legal position for
    child support for an unwanted/unplanned child?

    Thanks

    Yes the other parent is legally responsible to pay child support for a baby they did not plan for.

    I know someone in this position. The DNA proved he is the father of the child and an award was made stating how much he must pay each month.

    He didn't get a say in any of it and didn't know there was a baby until contacted by the CSA.
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  • pipkin71
    pipkin71 Posts: 21,821 Forumite
    I am not sure what "improper actions means" but this particular child was found to be badly disabled on the first scan. The couple had professional counselling with the hospital and offered a termination numerous times. One of them wanted a termination the other (woman) said "if the child dies she dies but I cannot kill her" and that he could walk away if he wanted. The child was not expected to survive but did and the mother gets a huge amount from the welfare people including a car. She wants the money paid "under the table" in case it jeopardises what she claims for a disabled child.

    It doesn't jeopardise any benefits received as parent can now keep benefits and maintenance payments for children.
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  • pipkin71
    pipkin71 Posts: 21,821 Forumite
    Well thanks everyone but £45 a week seems to be a great deal less than the father is spending now.

    If the £45 you mention is 15% of wages the father can still pay more, as he is right now, but it would probably be better if he pays it through direct debit so that there is a record of payments.

    If it came down to it and the case went to the CSA they could say he has to pay arrears if there is no evidence he has paid previously.

    15% is bandied about but he can carry on spending more than £45 on his child, but suggest he sets up a formal arrangement.
    There is something delicious about writing the first words of a story. You never quite know where they'll take you - Beatrix Potter
  • pipkin71
    pipkin71 Posts: 21,821 Forumite
    Sensemaya wrote: »
    Yes I used to treat my mum and always gave her a big thanks.

    It's the same with my parents, especially during my various stays in hospital. They bought my children to the hospital every day, despite living in a different town and would never dream of asking for payment.

    I'm due another operation and they will do the same again, likewise, I will make sure they know how much I love them and appreciate all they have done for me :o
    There is something delicious about writing the first words of a story. You never quite know where they'll take you - Beatrix Potter
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