Driving with Headlights on

Tilt

interstellaflyer wrote: »

This is the case for many manufacturers and I think it depends on model, some fords, VWs, Volvos and Vauxhalls have the DRLs either next to the front fogs or discretely in the front headlight units, it's mainly Audis and sporty hatches that have the garish LED strips.

Incidentally, I have a Nissan Qashqai on a 13 plate, it is the second from top model (360) brought out for 13 plate, no DRLs.

It should have. As a result of European legislation adopted in 2008 dedicated daytime running lights (DRL) have been required on all new types of passenger cars and small delivery vans since February 2011. Trucks and buses followed from August 2012.

TradePro

Tilt wrote: »

It should have. As a result of European legislation adopted in 2008 dedicated daytime running lights (DRL) have been required on all new types of passenger cars and small delivery vans since February 2011. Trucks and buses followed from August 2012.

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=62467145&postcount=89

Tilt

AFAIK it applies to vehicles BUILT (not registered) after Feb 2011. Happy to be corrected with a link to the relevant legislation though.

It maybe the case that a 'new' car without DLRs may of been built prior to Feb 2011.

TradePro

Tilt wrote: »

AFAIK it applies to vehicles BUILT (not registered) after Feb 2011. Happy to be corrected with a link to the relevant legislation though.

It maybe the case that a 'new' car without DLRs may of been built prior to Feb 2011.

Wrong again, sorry;

http://www.which.co.uk/news/2011/02/new-cars-to-be-fitted-with-daytime-running-lights-244280/

jm2926

The Fiat 500 DRL can be turned off, although the option is deep in the settings menu rather than via the light controls.

I always have mine on, they turn off when dipped beams are used.

I had a Japanese import motorbike registered in 1994 which had no off setting for the headlight. It simply makes vehicles more visible

Tilt

Is it? All that states is; "The announcement states that cars being put forward for type approval must have daytime running lights from yesterday (February 7), but not current production models".

To me that means (must admit it's a tad unclear) that the new directive only applies to cars 'type approved' AFTER 7th Feb 2011 but not cars currently in production at that time.

I would of thought (by 2013) that a new car bought within the last 12 months would of been approved and built with DLRs. But it is possible that the car in question was built during Feb 2011 or shortly after thus making it exempt.

Here is a link to the official press release;

http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-08-1394_en.htm?locale=en

Note the bit; The Directive, which has been adopted today, foresees that from 7 February 2011 onwards all new types of passenger cars and small delivery vans will have to be equipped with DRL. Trucks and buses will follow 18 months later, i.e. August 2012.

As I say, happy to be shown the correct definitive legislation because it appears to be a grey area.

facade

I have a Nissan with "Auto" lights. These light up in bright sunshine by them selves. (so mine are switched to "OFF")
It also came with "Auto" wipers. These furiously wipe a dry screen until the blades wear out, but don't wipe the screen in the rain until about 3 seconds after the crash due to lack of visibility (So they are switched "OFF" too......)

TradePro

Tilt wrote: »

Is it? All that states is; "The announcement states that cars being put forward for type approval must have daytime running lights from yesterday (February 7), but not current production models".

To me that means (must admit it's a tad unclear) that the new directive only applies to cars 'type approved' AFTER 7th Feb 2011 but not cars currently in production at that time.

I would of thought (by 2013) that a new car bought within the last 12 months would of been approved and built with DLRs. But it is possible that the car in question was built during Feb 2011 or shortly after thus making it exempt.

'Put forward for type approval' means a brand new design essentially, a new model that's looking to be launched.

A 'current production model' is not a car that is being built as we type, it's a version of car currently in production - in this example, the Qashqai has been in production since 2007, and was probably type approved in 2006/2007.

TradePro

facade wrote: »

I have a Nissan with "Auto" lights. These light up in bright sunshine by them selves. (so mine are switched to "OFF")
It also came with "Auto" wipers. These furiously wipe a dry screen until the blades wear out, but don't wipe the screen in the rain until about 3 seconds after the crash due to lack of visibility (So they are switched "OFF" too......)

'I have a Nissan with iffy electrics'

Seriously though, they are not working correctly.

d123

aardvaak wrote: »

Before today I thought DLR was the Docklands Light Railway!

Well it does

DLR is the Docklands Light Railway, however....

DRL are Daylight Running Lights, and all new cars have them.

You might be strange enough to think there is something wrong with them, most rational people understand the safety improvement they bring.