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How to get rid of illegal parkers in communal areas of flats?

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  • theartfullodger
    theartfullodger Posts: 15,693 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    edited 15 July 2013 at 2:29PM
    Consider handing out these wee bits of paper (NB NSFW....)

    http://www.shotdeadinthehead.com/yplac-booklet.html

    Or Google "You Park like a".... ( NSFW!! )
    - & find a web-site with great photo examples or really anti-social parking...

    GUARANTEED to get some sort of reaction..

    'cors, letting all the tyres down by removing the valve-inners would be the wrong thing to do... so I won't mention it...

    or these gently left under a couple of tyres would be wrong also
    http://www.wickes.co.uk/galv-extra-large-clout-nails-40mm-400g/invt/516044
    -- so I won't mention those either... (a neighbour did to me..)
  • funscott
    funscott Posts: 80 Forumite
    if they are taking up reserved spaces. the person whos space it is should park their car as normal. right in front of the offending car so it cant get out. take a picture of it first so if damage is done you know who to send the bill to. im sure there will be a few heated words the first time but they will think twice about doing it again.
  • Taiko
    Taiko Posts: 2,719 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    funscott wrote: »
    if they are taking up reserved spaces. the person whos space it is should park their car as normal. right in front of the offending car so it cant get out. take a picture of it first so if damage is done you know who to send the bill to. im sure there will be a few heated words the first time but they will think twice about doing it again.

    Except the person doing that would then be breaking the law theirself.
  • propertyman
    propertyman Posts: 2,922 Forumite
    There you go! I didn't know that. Thanks :)

    But you were content to argue twice that I was wrong... and having, as posted, enforced many IN court

    hmmm:cool:
    Stop! Think. Read the small print. Trust nothing and assume that it is your responsibility. That way it rarely goes wrong.
    Actively hunting down the person who invented the imaginary tenure, "share freehold";
    if you can show me one I will produce my daughter's unicorn
  • propertyman
    propertyman Posts: 2,922 Forumite
    luminated wrote: »
    There are red warning signs up that used to threaten clampers but they were changed to larger versions & the clamping threat removed.

    Clearly there is no simple solution so the permanent one, but drastic, is a big note to myself never never never live in this type of arrangement again.

    The permanent solution is a barrier controlled by fobs with a built in entryphone that calls flats so the health visitor etc can get access by being " buzzed in".

    While clampers exploited many situations, in the majority of situations it seems odd to me that the law was changed in effect to protect people from the consequences of parking on other peoples property with no right or business to be there.
    Stop! Think. Read the small print. Trust nothing and assume that it is your responsibility. That way it rarely goes wrong.
    Actively hunting down the person who invented the imaginary tenure, "share freehold";
    if you can show me one I will produce my daughter's unicorn
  • Cornucopia
    Cornucopia Posts: 16,471 Forumite
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    edited 15 July 2013 at 3:26PM
    While clampers exploited many situations...

    That's why the law was changed.

    Surely there is a still a basic offence of civil trespass, here. You take the registration number of regular offenders, obtain their details from DVLA. Someone confronts them to confirm the details and give them a final warning, and if they don't stop it, the details go to a solicitor to take civil enforcement action.

    The likely end result would be that they end up with an injunction against them continuing to trespass, plus an award for costs.

    edit: I also wonder if there is also the potential for the criminal offence of Aggravated Trespass, in that they are parking their vehicle with the intention of interfering with legitimate and lawful activities on the site - that may be a longer shot. I would ask the local Police what they think about this.
  • N1AK
    N1AK Posts: 2,903 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts
    Taiko wrote: »
    Except the person doing that would then be breaking the law theirself.

    I wouldn't suggest it however I think it is incorrect to claim it is illegal. The car park is private owned so parking behind another car isn't obstructing a public highway. Potentially refusing to move to let them out could be criminal.

    Would you care to explain what law you're saying they would be breaking?
    Having a signature removed for mentioning the removal of a previous signature. Blackwhite bellyfeel double plus good...
  • propertyman
    propertyman Posts: 2,922 Forumite
    edited 15 July 2013 at 3:36PM
    The solution was as it has always been

    " If its not your property car park or a public street, don't park there".

    Magically this leads to you not being clamped. :)

    The difficulty with civil remedies is that the cost awards are vastly less than the costs of taking that action, while the inconvience to residents is often immeasureable.
    Stop! Think. Read the small print. Trust nothing and assume that it is your responsibility. That way it rarely goes wrong.
    Actively hunting down the person who invented the imaginary tenure, "share freehold";
    if you can show me one I will produce my daughter's unicorn
  • N1AK
    N1AK Posts: 2,903 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts
    While clampers exploited many situations, in the majority of situations it seems odd to me that the law was changed in effect to protect people from the consequences of parking on other peoples property with no right or business to be there.

    People want to be able to clamp, they don't want to be clamped. Sadly you can apply a similar logic to most situations...
    Having a signature removed for mentioning the removal of a previous signature. Blackwhite bellyfeel double plus good...
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