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  • Sampong
    Sampong Posts: 870 Forumite
    I think we've done this one now,

    Well i'm not done :wink:
    I think a picture of a man doing a nazi salute is a picture of a man doing a nazi salute and you think it isn't because of the police/cps deciding not to prosecute him for something else.

    No, it's about looking at all of the facts.
    Let's move on, how about I post some pictures of something and then you write several pages claiming it is something else. Let's start with a hippo- 10 bonus points if you can prove it is the meerkat off the telly adverts.

    Which basically means because you can't win the argument you'd rather try and post something stupid to derail the thread.

    Look, here is a photo of Cameron and Obama.

    http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02597/G8_2597294b.jpg

    Wow - that's the Nazi salute alright.

    (well according to your logic anyway).
  • Sampong
    Sampong Posts: 870 Forumite
    To be honest, I am quite happy to accept other people's views, which is how I thought things were supposed to work in this country, particularly in the political spectrum. I choose to vote UKIP based on various reasons. You don't, that's up to you. It's also up to you vote Labour if you want to. Or conservative. Or whoever. That is your choice. Just like it is my choice, and my right to vote UKIP.

    What you don't do however, is come along and say "I think Alex Wood is a Nazi, but someone else doesn't. I accept that". Instead, you come out with;
    Given that there was a photo of that UKIP nitwit actually doing a nazi/fascist salute I reckon that's good enough evidence that he did actually do it. No doubt sampong will parrot the chap's excuse that he was merely reaching for a phone and just happened to accidentally do a nazi salute in the process...about as convincing as Ron Davies' badger stalking episode.

    Calling people nitwits and then insulting me. And when the heat gets too much, you would rather the thread disappear.

    Perhaps you'd be better just to stay silent in the future.
  • Sampong wrote: »
    Well i'm not done :wink:



    No, it's about looking at all of the facts.



    Which basically means because you can't win the argument you'd rather try and post something stupid to derail the thread.

    Look, here is a photo of Cameron and Obama.

    http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02597/G8_2597294b.jpg

    Wow - that's the Nazi salute alright.

    (well according to your logic anyway).

    That picture shows both cameron and obama using an open hand facing hte cameras like a wave. It looks very different from the ukip salute.

    Anyway, I don't need a picture to tell me that UKIP are a bit odd....
  • chewmylegoff
    chewmylegoff Posts: 11,469 Forumite
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    I didn't insult you though did I. I called him a nitwit as he clearly is one (by his own admission he was pretending to be a pot plant). I also didn't call him a nazi, I said that he did a nazi salute. I am on pretty safe ground because there is a photo of him actually doing a nazi salute.

    To counter this you have linked to other photos of him not doing a nazi salute, pointed out no-one has prosecuted him for allegedly making some comments on his facebook page and posted a picture of Cameron and Obama waving and very clearly not doing a nazi salute.

    You can keep going as long as you like but it isn't going to delete the picture of him doing a nazi salute from the Internet or change the photo into a picture of him pretending to be a pot plant.
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    Even if it wasn't a nazi salute, I'm not so sure pretending to be a pot plant is all that much better :D
  • Sampong
    Sampong Posts: 870 Forumite
    Even if it wasn't a nazi salute, I'm not so sure pretending to be a pot plant is all that much better :D

    I realise that comment was perhaps made in Jest, but personally I don't see anything wrong with a young lad in his early twenties having a bit of a laugh. I am sure we have all done things that were probably funny at the time but seem a little silly later.

    Alex Wood's problem of course is that he wouldn't have expected someone to hack into his facebook account, steal a long since forgotten photo that is only accessible to his friends (and hackers) and have it plastered all over the Daily Mirror.
  • Sampong
    Sampong Posts: 870 Forumite
    Incidentally, if it was, as some like to claim, a Nazi salute, you would have thought those involved in the smear campaign would surely have been able to uncover further evidence of him being involved in some kind of extreme, fascist organisation, where Nazi salutes are the norm.

    But there is nothing, nada, zip, F all. Which makes the whole story look even more ridiculous. And those who fell for it even more so.
  • Sampong
    Sampong Posts: 870 Forumite
    That picture shows both cameron and obama using an open hand facing hte cameras like a wave. It looks very different from the ukip salute.

    :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

    No sh?t sherlock! I guess sarcasm is lost on you.

    By the way......what is the "Ukip Salute"?
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    Sampong wrote: »

    By the way......what is the "Ukip Salute"?

    Is it this? :D

    Alex_Wood_Nazi_salute.jpg
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • Sampong
    Sampong Posts: 870 Forumite
    Is it this? :D

    Not as far as i'm aware - which is kind of the point. The poster said; "the UKIP salute"......
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