pulling into bus lane to let police car pass

neilmcl

smashingyour... wrote: »

It's not cause you have an exemption under the rta.

Unless you can show us where it says you don't. Highlight the part of section 87 where it lists driving qualifications cause I don't see it in there.

How about you yourself put up or shut up. You haven't provided a single shred of evidence to back up any of your nonsensical claims so far yet demand others to do so.

Jamie_Carter

smashingyour... wrote: »

It's not cause you have an exemption under the rta.

Unless you can show us where it says you don't. Highlight the part of section 87 where it lists driving qualifications cause I don't see it in there.

If you aren't authorised by the emergency service you work for, then you will have no exemption under section 87. To be authorised you need to have completed training, and your details need to be logged as a authorised. And that is in the road traffic act.

I'm not going to respond to any more of your trolling.

smashingyour...

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

If you aren't authorised by the emergency service you work for, then you will have no exemption under section 87. To be authorised you need to have completed training, and your details need to be logged as a authorised. And that is in the road traffic act.

I'm not going to respond to any more of your trolling.

Link please

smashingyour...

Section 87 states for police purposes. For what other purpose would a police vehicle be driven to an emergency?

worried123

Thank you to everyone...much appreciated.

I hope that the camera managed to catch the police car as well. I will appeal come what may...I am just an `innocent female driver who thought she was doing the right thing to be helpful`.....

I must admit....it was about 8.30 pm and this usually very busy stretch of road was empty.....literally....there was just a single lane and the bus lane....the police car was driving soooo fast and showed no sign of pulling over into the bus lane to pass me and it was instinct to just get out of the way and move over....the car was going so fast that i feel the camera may have caught it as it passed me the moment that i pulled in and the camera went off immediately......

I question why the police car made no attempt to overtake me on the left when it was a completely empty road....anyway, time will tell and i will certainly appeal....the 24 hour police station is literally just 2 minutes away from where it happened and they must have records of a car going off to an emergency at that time....

Thank you again - I will not do it again after what i have read but I do think that i would do it for an ambulance....

Jamie_Carter

worried123 wrote: »

Thank you to everyone...much appreciated.

I hope that the camera managed to catch the police car as well. I will appeal come what may...I am just an `innocent female driver who thought she was doing the right thing to be helpful`.....

I must admit....it was about 8.30 pm and this usually very busy stretch of road was empty.....literally....there was just a single lane and the bus lane....the police car was driving soooo fast and showed no sign of pulling over into the bus lane to pass me and it was instinct to just get out of the way and move over....the car was going so fast that i feel the camera may have caught it as it passed me the moment that i pulled in and the camera went off immediately......

I question why the police car made no attempt to overtake me on the left when it was a completely empty road....anyway, time will tell and i will certainly appeal....the 24 hour police station is literally just 2 minutes away from where it happened and they must have records of a car going off to an emergency at that time....

Thank you again - I will not do it again after what i have read but I do think that i would do it for an ambulance....

The police officer was probably planning on using the bus lane, but would have had to change their plan due to your well intentioned lane change.

In future if the bus lane is clear, then stay where you are, and let the emergency vehicle (whatever type) use the bus lane. They are allowed to, but you aren't.

As part of the blue light driving course they are taught progressive driving by planning ahead, and using which ever route is clearest.

CKhalvashi

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

The police officer was probably planning on using the bus lane, but would have had to change their plan due to your well intentioned lane change.

In future if the bus lane is clear, then stay where you are, and let the emergency vehicle (whatever type) use the bus lane. They are allowed to, but you aren't.

As part of the blue light driving course they are taught progressive driving by planning ahead, and using which ever route is clearest.

I can vouch for this, as I'm blue light trained (it's NHS policy in our area for anyone involved with blood runs to be trained, and about 6 of our taxi drivers, and another 8-10 in the town have been trained to this standard).

We're often doing 100mph+ through certain areas in these circumstances, so police, ambulances, fire, blood, and not so much now, but taxis (we used to have police escort, not always any more).

There is risk to life here, so job is logged on police systems, and I've been escorted down the M11 and through London more than once, when the police have finally caught up with me, mainly as a report of excess speed, without realising what's going on.

I think the last run I did averaged about 140mph going into London (from Cambridge), and a smidge over 120mph when I got to the hospital (12mi from the bottom of the M11). I was escorted from Stansted Airport, as a result of a concerned MoP call.

CK

missile

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

The article is talking about refresher training, and keeping standards up.

The standard to drive a panda car isn't as high as it is for a traffic police car, but it is still far higher than the average road user.

I don't have the exact figures, but the article was from 2010. Very stringent refresher training has been introduced since then in most counties (if not all), by all emergency services.

My comment was aimed at this offensive comment and glib assumption

Originally Posted by neilmcl
What a stupid statement to make. Most emergency drivers will have had extensive driving training before being allowed behind the wheel.

The OP said a police car NOT a traffic police car. I would agree traffic police are appropriately trained and qualified. However, I do not agree that all or even "most emergency drivers will have had extensive driver training before being allowed behind the wheel".

You appear to have some knowledge of police driving standards. I hope you would agree tail gaiting and gesticulating to intimidate road users into using a bus lane is not appropriate behaviour for any police driver?

Jamie_Carter

missile wrote: »

My comment was aimed at this offensive comment and glib assumption


The OP said a police car NOT a traffic police car. I would agree traffic police are appropriately trained and qualified. However, I do not agree that all or even "most emergency drivers will have had extensive driver training before being allowed behind the wheel".

You appear to have some knowledge of police driving standards. I hope you would agree tail gaiting and gesticulating to intimidate road users into using a bus lane is not appropriate behaviour for any police driver?

It doesn't really matter if you agree with this or not, as you obviously don't know.

All blue light trained drivers do undergo intensive training regardless of you might want to believe.

missile

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

It doesn't really matter if you agree with this or not, as you obviously don't know.

All blue light trained drivers do undergo intensive training regardless of you might want to believe.

Actually I do know. Emergency response extremely hazardous job and IMHO the driver training provided is barely adequate. It doesn't really matter, as obviously your opinion is law and anyone who disagrees is obviously wrong.

It would seem this police driver did not follow his intensive / extensive training when tail gaiting the OP. Perhaps he is one of those Supt Alan Greene spoke about?