Daydream thread... without the rose-tinted specs

Davesnave

It's width. Over 14' is deemed 'commercial.'

Sorry , s'posed to be cooking at the mo!

alfie_1

COOLTRIKERCHICK wrote: »

Davesnave is the expert on this..its got to be under a certain height otherwise its got to have planning permission..


Davesanve what height was it again???




Big girl is officially in labour, and pushing like a good un...

:T:T:T go girl ok so under 14ft wide.... what length ?

alfie_1

cute or what...... almost ready to go

Rummer

Nooooooooo Alfie, they are too cute for you to rehome!

CTC good luck!!

alfie_1

LIR............. dont suppose you are in need of some cute faces welcoming you on a morning [aside from your present menagerie ]

Davesnave

Davesnave wrote: »

It's width. Over 14' is deemed 'commercial.'

Ooooops! I'm wrong.....:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o

I think I got confused by the polytunnel manufacturer's brochure I have, which says that they consider structures over 14' to be in their commercial range.

It's really like this:

If the polytunnel meets with any of the following criteria, you should contact your local planning department to determine if planning permission is required (it will not be required in all cases):

• If the polytunnel would have any part forward of the front of the house.
• If it is more than 3m in height.
• If it would be within 2m of the boundary of the site and would be more than 2.5m in height.
• If it results in more than 50% of the area around the house being covered by buildings or structures not part of the original house.

Planning permission may be required if the site on which you intend to construct the polytunnel has a listed building or is in a Conservation Area, a National Park, an Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty, or the Norfolk or Suffolk Broads – There are further restrictions to planning within these areas.
If the polytunnel would be for commercial use or any other use that is not "incidental to the enjoyment of the dwelling house".

The problem is probably the last bit, but even so, there's a big difference between CTC growing a few lettuces and the massive tunnel structures used in places like Herefordshire to grow strawberries. I would say farm gate type sales are 'incidental.'

If it isn't massive, I think I would put it up and go into "wait & see" mode. PP can always be applied-for retrospectively.;)

In my own case, I knew I was putting up a commercial structure. At 24' wide and over the 3m high, I just had to go for PP. By choosing the site carefully, I made it almost invisible to others, so there were no objections. :A

alfie_1

looks like piglins are entering the world :j:j sorry if ive ruined the surprise but :j:j

Davesnave

Piglin update?????

News here is that the builder has had a relative pass on, and while it was entirely expected, we might not see him today. We have more than enough to do, so a day for catch-up is no problem.

Half the kitchen roof is now off. I cannot believe that we shall have such benign weather for the whole time it's like this. I'm therefore mentally preparing for being flooded out in there or for the electrics to go down. I think I might plastic bag a few bits of those, where I can.......;)

COOLTRIKERCHICK

morning all,


good news, and bad news


good news, as Alfie said Piglins have arrived, Bad news... mum is a bit stressed with it all, a bit like a dog with its first litter.. not really knows what to do, there are a couple of runts, which are holding their own at the mo, so going to get some goats milk, and some foster/feeding bottles, just incase we need to hand feed some, or take some of the litter away from her, to see how she copes with fewer piglins... But will see how/or if she calms down over the next 24hrs..


Don't know if this is the norm, and got totally spoiled by the other sows litter or what lol...


Davesanve... I think on the internet, they are saying October is going to be hot, and Indian Summer, so fingers crossed you will be lucky with the weather, with the kitchen roof off..

ferretkeeper

Davesnave wrote: »

Ooooops! I'm wrong.....:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o

I think I got confused by the polytunnel manufacturer's brochure I have, which says that they consider structures over 14' to be in their commercial range.

It's really like this:

If the polytunnel meets with any of the following criteria, you should contact your local planning department to determine if planning permission is required (it will not be required in all cases):

• If the polytunnel would have any part forward of the front of the house.
• If it is more than 3m in height.
• If it would be within 2m of the boundary of the site and would be more than 2.5m in height.
• If it results in more than 50% of the area around the house being covered by buildings or structures not part of the original house.

Planning permission may be required if the site on which you intend to construct the polytunnel has a listed building or is in a Conservation Area, a National Park, an Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty, or the Norfolk or Suffolk Broads – There are further restrictions to planning within these areas.
If the polytunnel would be for commercial use or any other use that is not "incidental to the enjoyment of the dwelling house".

The problem is probably the last bit, but even so, there's a big difference between CTC growing a few lettuces and the massive tunnel structures used in places like Herefordshire to grow strawberries. I would say farm gate type sales are 'incidental.'

If it isn't massive, I think I would put it up and go into "wait & see" mode. PP can always be applied-for retrospectively.;)

In my own case, I knew I was putting up a commercial structure. At 24' wide and over the 3m high, I just had to go for PP. By choosing the site carefully, I made it almost invisible to others, so there were no objections. :A

Good find Dave, really good info:A the only thing I would add is that you'd need PP if the polytunnel isn't in your garden or curtilage, regardless of size, particularly if it's having concreted in feet, giving it that extra bit of permanence.

I don't know where CTC is thinking of siting it (although the garden is a good size and probably the least shaded area from memory...) but for our tunnel we need PP because it's in our bottom field, nowhere near the house or garden. It's 14' or 18' wide and 40 odd feet long, although I don't remember seeing dimensions on our planning app, the consultant did not impress me and like you and the structural stuff Dave I could have done better plans myself, how annoying!

However he might have saved us a good few hundred in application fees IF his submission is passed...we only paid £60 for an agricultural application as opposed to about £1000 the planners 'suggested' I pay them :eek: :mad: BUT we are still waiting for a decision.

Weathers turned chilly here now, our heating went on last night for the first time. I hope the wee piggies are ok, don't envy CTC the impending feed bill though, I had a litter born last Halloween and my god they were like locusts to feed over winter- or teenagers- trying to eat me out of house and home :rotfl:

EDIT I see they're ok, mum will settle down, farrowing is exhausting for any sow let alone a newbie. Good idea to watch closely though, try not to take any away permanently as its mega hard work being stand in mum, but top up feed the littlies if you can; although the runts generally catch up later if you don't

How many have you got?