Daydream thread... without the rose-tinted specs

Davesnave

COOLTRIKERCHICK wrote: »

well 3 piggies gone this morning.. one is going to be bacon/gammon.. so we cant wait to taste our own bacon....

Just had a huge lamb roast, which won't do anything for my weight loss , but it did include 6 types of vegetables. :A

Pete's sheep are all nicely anonymous, so I don't know if we 'knew' this one.

Davesnave

On the subject of sheep, which I was just beginning to like (well, a bit!:rotfl:) I've now been placed in a dilemma by them. :mad:

It's not Pete's sheep, but those overwintered by a third party on my organic neighbour's land. This afternoon, they broke out of their field, jumping the stream and climbing the bank into my newly fenced off area by Mr Dog. There they were stuck, because all the other sides of that area are fenced. They couldn't do much damage either, because I've not planted anything there....... yet.

There are two reasons why the sheep got in. For a start, I've cleared the bank in places, ready to put in some new trees and shrubs, but the main reason is that the neighbour's electric fence is a joke. He's just spent out on new fencing for his other hedges, but the stream boundary has been ignored. I know I own the bank, but is it my responsibility if his sheep cross the boundary, which is the stream? Surely not.

So, I don't know what to do now. I have things like laurel to go in, which are potentially lethal to sheep, and I've other small shrubs and trees which they will just massacre if they come in again. It's the same down at the other end, where I'm getting ready to plant a copse of 50 small trees. While I've never seen a sheep in the stream there, if they were to come across , I'd lose everything, and quickly too!

Think I might be forced to get more fencing done! :mad:

choille

BD - Wonderful the chook came home.

Dave - as far as I'm aware it's your responsibility to fence out sheep if there's common land - that's what it is here, but I think if your neighbour is like ours - best to fence - or could you put in a water gate across the stream? If that's the only place they are getting in.

CTC - I grow sweet peas & keep the seed. The more you cut it the more that come but you do have to stake them. I think cut flower industry will be pretty time consuming affair - lovely one though.

Really cold here but dry. Hope it is tomorrow so I can have a bonfire & watch the sun peep over the ridge.

alfie_1

Davesnave wrote: »

On the subject of sheep, which I was just beginning to like (well, a bit!:rotfl:) I've now been placed in a dilemma by them. :mad:

It's not Pete's sheep, but those overwintered by a third party on my organic neighbour's land. This afternoon, they broke out of their field, jumping the stream and climbing the bank into my newly fenced off area by Mr Dog. There they were stuck, because all the other sides of that area are fenced. They couldn't do much damage either, because I've not planted anything there....... yet.

There are two reasons why the sheep got in. For a start, I've cleared the bank in places, ready to put in some new trees and shrubs, but the main reason is that the neighbour's electric fence is a joke. He's just spent out on new fencing for his other hedges, but the stream boundary has been ignored. I know I own the bank, but is it my responsibility if his sheep cross the boundary, which is the stream? Surely not.

So, I don't know what to do now. I have things like laurel to go in, which are potentially lethal to sheep, and I've other small shrubs and trees which they will just massacre if they come in again. It's the same down at the other end, where I'm getting ready to plant a copse of 50 small trees. While I've never seen a sheep in the stream there, if they were to come across , I'd lose everything, and quickly too!

Think I might be forced to get more fencing done! :mad:

if the bank is yours, im assuming the fence line is yours.? the old way was that you had to fence to keep livestock OUT here. so if forest ponies get in ..tough

i would be carefull of planting any poss poisenous hedging if its not fenced otherside of that.
whilst pain in the butt ,i would fence it and advise sheep owner to electrify it his side [3ft minimum from yr boundary] as you cannot be responsible for any poisoning but he will be responsible if his sheep do damage. im sure he will amicably put fence up ????:cool:

phoebe1989seb

COOLTRIKERCHICK wrote: »

Can you see the face...lol...

Cripes CTC - it's like the Turin Shroud :eek: You could start charging [STRIKE]pilgrims[/STRIKE] people to view it, lol, then persuade them to buy your blooms etc :rotfl:

lostinrates

How crazy is it that new water troughs are so much cheaper than second hand?

I've been looking for old ones for planters for the yard ( crazy prizes) and DH said last night to price new and tbh, you never see people buy new metal water troughs so.....anyway.....cheaper than big pots even.

Ok, they look raw and shiny and new but, c'est la vie. Maybe it will provide a nice contrast to the collapsing and old here? . It the future when I have more time I could even paint them to be a warm metal........



Speaking of that, I started using hammerite last weekend on the steel frame. We had a pot of copper so that's what I used. Their colour / naming people are odd. Its not in the least copper. From a distance with light on it at a weird angle it might look like dirty brass.


Its absolutely great for where it is though. Colour fine. Its funny how just softening a line of black can make something less 'heavy'. Unsure of where I'd painted up to I was looking yesterday in a bad mood thinking we should probably have been more nibble about colour, and that the white didn't look so bad in the light then, when I realised I've painted enough blue that I was only seeing blue and the hammerite copper, not black and white in the funny light, and its doing what I hoped....softening.

In day light, with no planting its still very bold.

rozeepozee

Count down to the builders leaving. Unfortunately, each time it's looked like they are ready to leave, we have found a fair list of jobs outstanding for them to do: Ones they'd be happy to leave as done, but we feel require tweaking. There's still a way to go..... Have I told you that I'm incredibly weary of this process?

My Spring health kick (I like to think of it as that rather than a New Year's resolution as I think I'm more likely to keep at it) is helping with my spirits. I love food too much to cut down on my consumption, so I'd prefer to run off the excess energy intake. The weather isn't good enough to be running outside (too slippy) so i've joined the gym. The bliss of a warm shower is enought to get me to go in the morning.... It's turned so cold here.

Davesnave

choille wrote: »

BD - Wonderful the chook came home.

Dave - as far as I'm aware it's your responsibility to fence out sheep if there's common land - that's what it is here, but I think if your neighbour is like ours - best to fence - or could you put in a water gate across the stream? If that's the only place they are getting in.

alfie_1 wrote: »

if the bank is yours, im assuming the fence line is yours.? the old way was that you had to fence to keep livestock OUT here. so if forest ponies get in ..tough

i would be carefull of planting any poss poisenous hedging if its not fenced otherside of that.
whilst pain in the butt ,i would fence it and advise sheep owner to electrify it his side [3ft minimum from yr boundary] as you cannot be responsible for any poisoning but he will be responsible if his sheep do damage. im sure he will amicably put fence up ????:cool:

It's not like the NF or areas of common land; there's our land and his land, with the stream as the boundary.

Up by Mr Dog's, we own the hedge, so I accept that I have to make it work. Last year, there was a decent electric fence on their side. This year, thanks to some digger work Mr Organic had done, dredging the stream, that's no longer functional up there.

If I laid that hedge, it would be easier to get a quick fix, but Mr Dog doesn't want that, and nor do I now. I have a series of hazel bushes with gaps between, so I'll tie-in some hurdles until I can grow stuff in the gaps.

The real worry is at the bottom of the newly fenced copse area where the stream is on our side and it's Mr Organic's hedge, such as it is. His electric fence at that point still exists, but how functional it is I wouldn't like to say. He probably isn't going to make it better. :mad:

I'm not keeping the rickety fence I have there, as it's practically falling down the bank into the stream, but I could put another further up to protect the saplings. I have s/h wire and old posts, but I've never done a run of 30m. :eek:

Which is best, a post maul or one of those tubular post bangers, assuming there's only me to do the banging? Or do I just go buy a portable electric jobbie, as a lead-out from my mains one would have to pass through a lot to get there? Hmmmmm. :think:

choille

Tubular post bangers & a quad to stand on when your banging!

That's what they seem to use here & these guys fence up mountains! If you get the poles you could well use those as your strainers - perfect!

Dull here but dry, just a peep of sun, but it's a start of the sun coming back.

Old cat has started peeing & worse under the bed. He was always so clean - never did owt inside. He seems to be losing the plot but happY!

I am chucking out slippers that are stinking to high heaven of cat wee.

It's so sad yet annoying too, but he really doesn't seem to know what he's doing........................

Better_Days

Davesnave wrote: »

Blimey, your WI alone would take up half the seats in our hall! :eek:

I forgot that you probably weren't on this thread last February when we did ours. If your DH wants a copy of our script for jokes, ideas etc I could email it to you, though I'm sure he'll have more than enough of his own!

Here's a taster:

Dr Whatsname: Holmes, why have you painted the front door bright yellow?

Holmes: Lemon entry, dear Whatsname, lemon entry!

I'll get me coat.....:o

That's very kind of you Davesnave - panto isn't really my thing but Mr BD loves all the jokes a la 'Lemon Entry' and would love ideas for some more to work into the panto. Shall I PM you my email addy?

Stove should have been delivered yesterday but didn't arrive - hopefully it will come today as the installer is booked for tomorrow.

Charlie is depressed and very sorry for himself after going to the vets for a dental yesterday. He has been whining and wont settle. Turned up his nose at all food offered but was unable to resist a little bit of hot dog sausage - so he can't be that upset. The whining is a bit wearing though.