Son been naughty at his Dads house

adouglasmhor

lazer wrote: »

Seriously people - the dad maybe works in a dirty job and picks the son up directly on his way home from work.

He could be working with asbestos, chemicals or who knows what - therefore it is a good thing he has a shower before settling down to spend time with his son.

If he is working with asbestos or any other grade 1 hazardous material he has to shower at work not at home with others present. If he is actually ignoring that legal requirement he is dangerously stupid.

Funky_Bold_Ribena

princesstippytoes wrote: »

So you think leaving two very small toddlers alone in a kitchen unsupervised is safe do you. In one of the photgraphs we see drawers at the toddlers eye level what if they had opened them to find cutlery or other sharp implements. Toddlers climb and things like kettles and toasters spring to mind. A kitchen is not the place to leave two small children alone.

Don't be ridiculous!

It's not like anyone ever leaves knives or sharp imp...oh hang on a minute......:eek:

iammumtoone

adouglasmhor wrote: »

If he is working with asbestos or any other grade 1 hazardous material he has to shower at work not at home with others present. If he is actually ignoring that legal requirement he is dangerously stupid.

Just to clear up any confusion, he gets home from work just before 5 so wont have long before I bring our son to him but he doesn't have a job that means he needs to have a shower straight away, if he did our agreement would be that I drop of at 5.15 or something. He might have been going out that night I don't know, but suspect not as he was still in his house about half hour after son had left when he made the phone call to me.

mrcow

FBaby wrote: »

Well I guess I'm the only one with the dad on this one. At 6, you should be able to leave a child for 5 minutes whilst taking a shower without property being vandalized during that time.

Yes you should be able to leave them. But kids do play with stuff and at 6, children don't always think through the consequences of their actions.

Leaving a child of that age alone with no distraction/instructions (e.g. I'm having a shower, just sit and read until I finish etc) is risking problems.

The father can't blame the child as the father hasn't managed the situation properly in the first place.

tattycath

Re the kitchen photo... There was an obvious trip hazard in there is a case of cans of food- if a child trips and face plants a case of tins of food I imagine it would have very serious consequences and cause serious injury.not to mention the pieces of wood on the floor ...
This thread seems to be hot on dad bashing. If mum went for a shower while with the child it's acceptable but heaven forbid the absent parent should want/need a shower when their child is with them.... What a load of rubbish!
FWIW I think a six year old should be old enough to know right from wrong and he should be disciplined accordingly.

Funky_Bold_Ribena

Does a nearly 6 year old know what a screwdriver is exactly? And what it is and isn't for? Where had he left it and why?

barbiedoll

So your ex left a 5 year old alone with a screwdriver whilst he went and had a shower? He's lucky that he still has a working telly, and no holes in the wall, I think he got away lightly with a scratch on a table! :eek:

Yes, it's very annoying when kids ruin things, but threatening to not have his son over anymore is a bit extreme. It's not like the kid started a fire or killed a family pet. Tell your ex that you have spoken to your son and that your son said to tell his dad that he apologises profusely and he will pay for the damage when he gets a job in 13 years time. Maybe THAT will placate your ex?

duchy

Never mind the table...what about the injury the five year old could have done to themselves. I think I'd be agreeing with Dad that it was best he didn't go round .

FBaby

mrcow wrote: »

Yes you should be able to leave them. But kids do play with stuff and at 6, children don't always think through the consequences of their actions.

Leaving a child of that age alone with no distraction/instructions (e.g. I'm having a shower, just sit and read until I finish etc) is risking problems.

The father can't blame the child as the father hasn't managed the situation properly in the first place.

Who said there wasn't distraction? Do we know the TV wasn't on? It's not about blame or punishing the child harshly, it's about having a conversation with him to explain why his behaviour wasn't acceptable and why he shouldn't do it again, which I gathered is what the dad was trying to do, expect that the mother didn't force the child to get on the phone. I think it was an appropriate expectation.

FBaby

So your ex left a 5 year old alone with a screwdriver whilst he went and had a shower? He's lucky that he still has a working telly, and no holes in the wall, I think he got away lightly with a scratch on a table

Really?? Leaving a screwdriver in the sight of an almost 6 yo is asking for trouble? Gosh, I must be a very tough mum with high expectations from my kids, because they certainly knew that this kind of action was wrong at that age. Now of course it could still have happened, but if it did, they would have been told off and they would have known very well why.

If parents don't think there is anything wrong with the possibility of them breaking the TV or putting holes in their wall if given the chance at the age of almost 6, then I think I must be living on another planet!