Liverpool Airport VCS

Coupon-mad

VCS and APCOA have been criticised by us lot so much by complaints to the BPA (mainly about late NTKs) that I think they also have a 'non-POFA' version. Certainly APCOA and CEL do, not 100% sure about VCS.

But remember that lack of POFA 2012 doesn't mean lack of POPLA. Easier to win in fact = no keeper liability at all!

morrisoscar

morrisoscar wrote: »

Received a letter acknowledging receipt of appeal today, states they will be in contact within 35 days. Only taken them four months from date of original appeal which they didn't acknowledge.

Now over 35 days since VCS acknowledged copy of appeal as registered keeper (not naming driver) and nothing back.

Is this now dead?
Will they send a late/backdated appeal response?
Claim at some later date to have sent an appeal rejection which my son did not receive?
Something else?

Anybody experience of what VCS have done previously in similar circumstances at this location?

Coupon-mad

Liverpool Airport VCS no reply site:forums.moneysavingexpert.com

Copy & paste the above into Google. I could see lots of threads you could read and you could pm some recent posters to ask, if they haven't updated their thread yet.

morrisoscar

Coupon-mad wrote: »

Liverpool Airport VCS no reply site:forums.moneysavingexpert.com

Copy & paste the above into Google. I could see lots of threads you could read and you could pm some recent posters to ask, if they haven't updated their thread yet.

Seems one of the ploys they use is to wait for you to write to them telling them they are out of time so appeal deemed as accepted. They then send you an appeal rejection and POLPA code as if they have done nothing wrong. POPLA do have a record of not allowing appeals based solely on the PPC having failed to respond within set time-scales thereby making the BPA 35 day guide line irrelevant. So this could be a trap set by VCS though maybe I'm mistaking incompetence for cunning .

Coupon-mad

POPLA do have a record of not allowing appeals

Not on here they don't, we win 100% of POPLA appeals where we or pepipoo advise the poster, since April onwards (once we learnt which points win).

morrisoscar

Coupon-mad wrote: »

Not on here they don't, we win 100% of POPLA appeals where we or pepipoo advise the poster, since April onwards (once we learnt which points win).

Yes, I was saying

morrisoscar wrote: »

POPLA do have a record of not allowing appeals based solely on the PPC having failed to respond within set time-scales.

Which following advice from good people like yourself my son won't be doing or writing to them again, unless they send a back dated rejection.

morrisoscar

morrisoscar wrote: »

Now over 35 days since VCS acknowledged copy of appeal as registered keeper (not naming driver) and nothing back.

Is this now dead?
Will they send a late/backdated appeal response?
Claim at some later date to have sent an appeal rejection which my son did not receive?
Something else?

Anybody experience of what VCS have done previously in similar circumstances at this location?

Spoke to soon, appeal rejection and POPLA code received today dated 150+ days since appeal sent and ignored by VCS, 35 days since copy of appeal received letter from VCS.

As the driver has not been named despite them making several requests they are claiming my son as registered keeper is liable under POFA 2012.

So let me see there reply claims:-

1) The approach road to Liverpool airport is relevant land for POFA.
2) VCS class being stationary as parking.
3) By passing the signs the driver agreed to be contractually bound by the terms and conditions.

Appeal to POPLA being worked on and will include
1) Prove it is relevant land for POFA and not covered by overriding by-laws.
2) As VCS photo shows a row of cars and as VCS claim stopping on this road can cause an obstruction prove that the driver had any other option other than to stop.
3) Prove signs can be read while driving passed at speed limit.

Oh and not forgetting
4) Prove £100.00 is a GPEOL.

Anything I've missed?

The_Slithy_Tove

And don't forget the complaint to BPA and DVLA for breach of the BPA Code of Practice. Every single breach should be reported, just to make them aware of the wholesale, persistent, cynical way these companies just don't give a s**t about anything except scamming the public.

Coupon-mad

I know yours isn't APCOA at Luton but:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/63651104#Comment_63651104

That one would be a basic Airport POPLA appeal wording to adapt (not the decision, the POPLA appeal shown below it).

Also get detailed as regards their claim it as a 'no-stopping zone' which I wrote this 'signage' POPLA appeal point for, the other day on a VCS thread:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/63763097#Comment_63763097

Show your draft here first and compare notes with 'MrsG1980' whose very similar thread is near yours on the front page of this parking forum today.

esmerobbo

I was there earlier there were around 6 cars waiting to turn right into Dunlop road. Leaving the airport all were stationary, waiting for the inbound road to clear.
There is no way you could stop and read the sign as you enter the road as you would block the junction. The only ones you could safely read are the ones on the lampposts and the fences.
Speke hall avenue is definitely not a car park or even an approach to a car park!