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over charged on ebay postage. can I please have some good advice?
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I can't speak for everyone but for me its not necessarily about paying less, its about not feeling ripped off for p+p, its about feeling like you got value for money. Small difference I know, but a difference it is. If I paid £5 for a top and £5 for p+p when the stamp price was £2 I feel ripped off. If I paid £7.50 for a top and the p+p was £2.50 I dont feel ripped off. Sure I was paying the same amount (and maybe I didn't feel like I got a bargain quite as much on the top when paying £7.50 instead of a fiver) but I am left with a better feeling about the transaction.
At the end of the day I have heard it being described as 'sneaky' to load the p+p. I wouldn't necessarily put it like that, but to me it's def misleading.
That extra 2.50 in the price costs about 35 pence in accumulative fees, if P&P is 2.50 then that's your due fees but if P&P is a fiver the seller will need to price themselves at 7.85 + 2.50 &P and then most people will buy from the seller who is that little bit cheaper overall (or even worse be drawn in by the cheap "headline" item price) but of course complain about the P&P.
I've been undercut by 10 pence on items by sellers with poorer feedback, none existence descriptions and no generous 30 days returns and fully legal policies but still they gain sales.
I agree with what say and I agree that's how it is and I agree sellers shouldn't overcharge (but a bit for packaging is fine in my view) but I also think buyers should support decent sellers far more than they currently do.In the game of chess you can never let your adversary see your pieces0 -
How grown up!!
It was an oversight and it was a silk suit. It was lightweight and I knew the postage should have been around £2.60. I bid at the last moment and didn't check the cost. So, shoot me. No way was I paying £7 without comment. I am a buyer and my opinion counts, if you as a seller choose to discount it that is up to you, but it is at your peril.
The issue here is were you drawn in by the bidding being a bit lower than it should and if so was this because of the high P&P? If it was like that then I go back to my earlier point of it being unfair on other buyers to ask for any refund afterwards to basically get the item for less than the under-bidders who lost out were willing to pay. I see that as cheating the other bidders.In the game of chess you can never let your adversary see your pieces0 -
StumpyPumpy wrote: »Give over, you cannot base an opinion on what "the norm" is based on how a couple of people rated your charges, which you seem to be admitting were deliberately excessive. What you are doing is trying to make it "the norm" by perpetuating it yourself and thereby punish other users who you think get away with it. You're not fooling anyone by pretending your actions are virtuous.
My charges were not that excessive but they did include packing and time costs which I have now realised cannot be included in the postage but need to be factored into the start price. I am not pretending to be virtuous or trying to fool anyone. Why would I? I have told you what I do quite openly.
I know from these threads that others see inflated charges for postage as being unacceptable and leave feedback accordingly. I didn't do that originally even if I was annoyed at the cost, now I do, contact re the charges) after making as do others. Many just pay it and then leave low stars without making contact.
I am happy with my feedback, it has now gone back up because I have absorbed those costs into my start price as others should do.TrickyWicky wrote: »Yes it was wasn't it - leaving low stars for your idiocy..
Playground tactics.StumpyPumpy wrote: »How do you know what other costs the seller incurred? - For all you know they could of had a 5 mile trip to the post office to send it to you. Why should the seller absorb that?
You wanted it, you agreed to pay it. Simple as that.
Ultimately this thread is about some people wanting to go back on a deal they made and then trying to justify it.
I don't care what cost the other seller incurred. We all have costs, and we should factor them into the start price not the postage price. If we don't others are entitled to leave feedback accordingly and they do.0 -
the_lunatic_is_in_my_head wrote: »The issue here is were you drawn in by the bidding being a bit lower than it should and if so was this because of the high P&P? If it was like that then I go back to my earlier point of it being unfair on other buyers to ask for any refund afterwards to basically get the item for less than the under-bidders who lost out were willing to pay. I see that as cheating the other bidders.
In this particular case there were no other bidders.
However, in general I disagree because if postage charges are inflated rather than reflected in the start bid then lower fees are paid, so circumventing the system for the seller. It is up to prospective buyers to decide if they want to have to pay the inflated postage cost or ask for a reduction. Everybody makes their own decision and each route is open to all, so why is it unfair?0 -
In this particular case there were no other bidders.
However, in general I disagree because if postage charges are inflated rather than reflected in the start bid then lower fees are paid, so circumventing the system for the seller. It is up to prospective buyers to decide if they want to have to pay the inflated postage cost or ask for a reduction. Everybody makes their own decision and each route is open to all, so why is it unfair?
The reason it's not fair is because some of us factor the P&P into our total price and wouldn't dream of asking for part of the total back.In the game of chess you can never let your adversary see your pieces0 -
the_lunatic_is_in_my_head wrote: »The reason it's not fair is because some of us factor the P&P into our total price and wouldn't dream of asking for part of the total back.
That is up to the individual though. As far as I am concerned when I sell I charge the correct postage and when I buy I expect to pay the correct postage.0 -
HOW DARE YOU!!StumpyPumpy wrote: »How do you know what other costs the seller incurred? - For all you know they could of had a 5 mile trip to the post office to send it to you. Why should the seller absorb that?
You wanted it, you agreed to pay it. Simple as that.
Ultimately this thread is about some people wanting to go back on a deal they made and then trying to justify it.
I don't care what cost the other seller incurred. We all have costs, and we should factor them into the start price not the postage price. If we don't others are entitled to leave feedback accordingly and they do.
Falsifying a quote by me to justify your stance. That is completely out of order. If that is how you behave on eBay, I'm not surprised you got bad feedback. I would never want to deal with you.Come on people, it's not difficult: lose means to be unable to find, loose means not being fixed in place. So if you have a hole in your pocket you might lose your loose change.0 -
StumpyPumpy wrote: »HOW DARE YOU!!
Falsifying a quote by me to justify your stance. That is completely out of order. If that is how you behave on eBay, I'm not surprised you got bad feedback. I would never want to deal with you.
I have no idea what you are alluding to here. I pressed quote on your post and this is how it came out. I would never falsify a quote why would that be necessary, really do grow up and calm down.
Or did you make the comment and delete it?0 -
I have no idea what you are alluding to here. I pressed quote on your post and this is how it came out. I would never falsify a quote why would that be necessary, really do grow up and calm down.
Or did you make the comment and delete it?
I can't actually believe that this thread rumbles on. But poet, it wasn't stumpy who made that comment, it was another poster. So you must have edited something, intentionally or not.They deem him their worst enemy who tells them the truth. -- Plato0 -
I can't actually believe that this thread rumbles on. But poet, it wasn't stumpy who made that comment, it was another poster. So you must have edited something, intentionally or not.
I pressed multiquote, but have not edited anything. It must be a system glitch.
Really though, the comment was innocuous so I cannot see what he is getting so steamed up about.0
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