Neurolinguistic programming

gwen80

Hi there

Has anybody had any experience of neurolinguistic programming?

I'm trying to improve myself a bit at the moment. I want to improve my communication and build better relationships with people. I'm fine at work, but I struggle with my relationship with my Mum (who can be very overbearing) and at times, I feel like my relationship with my friends and brother could be better.

Thank you

Gwenx

securityguy

It's absolute nonsense. Like other pseudo-science pieces of charlatanism (see, at a junior level, the vogue for "Brain Gym" in primary schools a few years ago) it is superficially convincing to people with limited educations. But it is absolute nonsense, other than for the people who are coining it providing services to the gullible.

heartbreak_star

Brain Gym...two words that used in conjuction make my teeth grind.

HBS x

gwen80

securityguy wrote: »

It's absolute nonsense. Like other pseudo-science pieces of charlatanism (see, at a junior level, the vogue for "Brain Gym" in primary schools a few years ago) it is superficially convincing to people with limited educations. But it is absolute nonsense, other than for the people who are coining it providing services to the gullible.

Thanks securityguy. Do you have experience of NLP? Attended courses etc?

fluffnutter

It's bollocks. HTH.

securityguy

gwen80 wrote: »

Thanks securityguy. Do you have experience of NLP? Attended courses etc?

No, for the same reason I haven't joined the Scientologists (whose techniques are not unrelated). I have, however, read the scientific literature on the topic. But if you want to play "oh, you need to experience it to know about it", knock yourself out.

gwen80

Nope, you're entitled to your opinion. I was just interested to understand what your experience of it was.

Could I ask why specifically you view it as nonsense? What are your reasons?

Mojisola

gwen80 wrote: »

I'm trying to improve myself a bit at the moment. I want to improve my communication and build better relationships with people.

I'm fine at work, but I struggle with my relationship with my Mum (who can be very overbearing) and at times, I feel like my relationship with my friends and brother could be better.

Don't ignore the possibility that the difficulties in the relationship could be your Mum's fault and not yours.

Is there any reason why you're thinking about NLP in particular?

securityguy

gwen80 wrote: »

Nope, you're entitled to your opinion. I was just interested to understand what your experience of it was.

Could I ask why specifically you view it as nonsense? What are your reasons?

There's no evidence that it works, and there's no theoretical reason why it should work. One should always be careful of Wikipedia, but the opening paragraph, which I assume you've read, chimes pretty closely with the more detailed reading I've done in the past.

The balance of scientific evidence reveals NLP to be a largely discredited pseudoscience. Scientific reviews show it contains numerous factual errors,[3][4] and fails to produce the results asserted by proponents.[5][6] According to clinical psychologist Grant Devilly (2005),[7] NLP has had a consequent decline in prevalence since the 1970s. Criticisms go beyond lack of empirical evidence for effectiveness, saying NLP exhibits pseudoscientific characteristics,[7] title,[8] concepts and terminology as well.[9][10] NLP serves as an example of pseudoscience for facilitating the teaching of scientific literacy at the professional and university level.[11][12][13] NLP also appears on peer reviewed expert-consensus based lists of discredited interventions.[5] In research designed to identify the "quack factor" in modern mental health practice, Norcross et al. (2006) [10] list NLP as possibly or probably discredited for treatment of behavioral problems. Norcross et al. (2010)[14] list NLP in the top ten most discredited interventions, and Glasner-Edwards and Rawson (2010) list NLP as "certainly discredited".[15]

gwen80

Mojisola - Re: my Mum I agree. My brother doesn't have a particularly easy relationship with her either. She also has mental health problems which don't make things easy. There will always be difficult relationships in life though and I guess it's about learning how to improve them (if possible) or manage them if not.

I think based on the feedback I've received so far, I'll probably continue with what I have been doing, which is to try and be open minded and to try and see things from other people's point of view wherever possible and I've been reading some self improvement books which have received good reviews on Amazon. I also think confidence plays a large part in developing good communication and relationships and I'm working on that too.

Thanks

Gwenx

j.e.j.

securityguy wrote: »

It's absolute nonsense. Like other pseudo-science pieces of charlatanism (see, at a junior level, the vogue for "Brain Gym" in primary schools a few years ago) it is superficially convincing to people with limited educations. But it is absolute nonsense, other than for the people who are coining it providing services to the gullible.

NLP is quite fashionable at the moment, but I'm afraid I agree with securityguy. I was put off it by a not very pleasant person who seemed to manipulate and B-S his way through life and he was using 'NLP' for his own means.