Neighbour smoking in his own home is affecting me......

19lottie82

Gordon_Hose wrote: »

!!!!!!.

You, and the Police, don't know he's "only smoking a bit of weed" that's the point you seem so intent on missing.

No I get your point, really.

The point I am making is that in order to get a warrant, they need proper evidence that something serious is going on. And from what the OP has told us, there isn't any evidence of that, is there?

Gordon_Hose

Whoever reported our neighbour didn't have any evidence that he was dealing, yet the Police still paid him visit. Twice.

Again, don't just assume the Police will do nothing if you call to report criminal behaviour.

Gingernutty

19lottie82 wrote: »

No I get your point, really.

The point I am making is that in order to get a warrant, they need proper evidence that something serious is going on. And from what the OP has told us, there isn't any evidence of that, is there?

There's been no dealing. There are no visitors, just Dad slacking instead of working.

Drug dealing, prostitution and anti-social behaviour are issues around here - I used to have the mobile number of the local beat bobby and rang it regularly about things I'd seen, the latest anti-social behaviour from the previous tenant and so on.

The local bobby told me once that the people on the other side would ring him about everything, but if I rang him, then it must be serious. :cool:

I did use to work for a branch of the CJS, a now shut down agency, so I know about drugs, anti social behaviour, police responses and so on.

Like I said, it seems as if the problem is sorting itself out now.

19lottie82

Gordon_Hose wrote: »

Whoever reported our neighbour didn't have any evidence that he was dealing, yet the Police still paid him visit. Twice.

Yes, but you have no clue as to what was going on between the smoker and the police, apart from your neighbours complaints!

They MUST have had additional intelligence in regards to other activities, in order for them to get a warrant to break his door down. There is no way they would have done that based on just complaints that he was smoking cannabis in his home.

Chances are they had a dossier of criminal activity and had him under survelance for a while in order to justify this raid.

OK, so there is a chance that the OP's nighbours might be involved in other illegal activities that could result in a warrant and a raid, but I very, very much doubt it. And even if he was, they would need a lot of evidence, somethign there is no sign of so far.

Gordon_Hose

19lottie82 wrote: »

Yes, but you have no clue as to what was going on between the smoker and the police, apart from your neighbours complaints!

They MUST have had additional intelligence in regards to other activities, in order for them to get a warrant to break his door down. There is no way they would have done that based on just complaints that he was smoking cannabis in his home.

Chances are they had a dossier of criminal activity and had him under survelance for a while in order to justify this raid.

OK, so there is a chance that the OP's nighbours might be involved in other illegal activities that could result in a warrant and a raid, but I very, very much doubt it. And even if he was, they would need a lot of evidence, somethign there is no sign of so far.

So, using your logic, ANYONE can smoke cannabis at home and not have to worry about the Police paying a visit? Really?

What's to say the OP's neighbour doesn't have a dossier of criminal activity?

I very, very much doubted Jimmy Saville was a kiddie fiddler!! Look how that turned out.

My one and only point is that the OP doesn't have to put up with it. If he's smoking illegal drugs and it's affecting them, then call the Police, it could be the final nail in his coffin. Don't just assume they won't do anything, that is a ridiculous attitude to take.

19lottie82

Gordon_Hose wrote: »

So, using your logic, ANYONE can smoke cannabis at home and not have to worry about the Police paying a visit? Really?

Of course the police could pay them a visit. But I very much doubt they would waste their resources on such a visit based on complaints that someone was smoking in their own home, only. The paperwork alone wouldn’t be worth the visit.

Even if they did, they wouldn’t get any further than the doorstep without permission from the occupier to enter, without a warrant. So if they were told not to come in, unless the tenant was standing at the door holding drugs, there wouldn’t really be anything else that they could do to investigate. UNLESS they went back to the station and sat for a period of time putting together the required info together, to apply to their seniors (multiple) for approval for a warrant.

Now, theoretically, this warrant could be approved and they could go back and raid the house BUT I would be willing to bet my home and all other worldly possessions that it / they wouldn’t. The police have limited staff, resources and funds at the best of times, and to waste them on a situation like this would be ludicrous.
Even if they did raid the place and found someone smoking a spliff, the worse they could expect would be a fine. Hardly worth it, was it?

Gordon_Hose wrote: »

What's to say the OP's neighbour doesn't have a dossier of criminal activity?

Gordon_Hose wrote: »

Of course, but who's to say that he does? And chances are he doesn't, just like most people. Innocent until proven guilty and all of that.

I have known plenty of cannabis smokers very well during my life and to my knowledge all of them have just been average people, with no criminal activity dossiers.

Gordon_Hose wrote: »

I very, very much doubted Jimmy Saville was a kiddie fiddler!! Look how that turned out.

Ridiculous comparison!

Anyway, I don't think we are getting anywhere with this arguement, so prob best just to leave it at that!

Gordon_Hose

If I were you I'd move into a different Policing region. Seems the force protecting you compromises of one, overweight, lazy constable who can't be bothered to investigate complaints regarding the use of illegal substances. The sad part is, you seem fine with the fact your local Police force don't/won't act on complaints from members of their constabulary.

I'm glad the force protecting me acted on residents complaints and did their job.

sinbad182

Watching Gordon Hose try and fail to get his head around the patently clear and entirely correct point that 19lottie82 is making is absolutely cringe worthy.

Get a grip Gordon, for Christ's sake!

Dan-Dan

I always suspected Jimmy Saville was a wrong un

Hope that helps

Gordon_Hose

sinbad182 wrote: »

Watching Gordon Hose try and fail to get his head around the patently clear and entirely correct point that 19lottie82 is making is absolutely cringe worthy.

Get a grip Gordon, for Christ's sake!

Hush your mouth, foolio! lol