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This seems similar to what you did and he was charged with assault

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-16288101

adouglasmhor

goater78 wrote: »

But your link seems to indicate it was assault? Was this not "personal violence?"

I would probably have complained to the manager and requested a new seat.

I don't believe you should lay your hands on another person unless there is no other option. I believe in this case there were other options.

Obviously you favour physical confrontation! you can't reason with someone who is determined to be unreasonable, i did as I have pointed out more than once tell him to stop first, I can't imagine how anyone of even average intellect would see that as favouring physical confrontation.

It was allocated seating as I said before and the theatre was full, it was not personal violence it was restraint - something very different, though his kicking the chair was in fact both an assault (it did hurt my back) and an attempt to assert a dominance over me, as it had been pointed out to him it was hurting me, all he had to do was stop. Also the cinema staff hid rather than do their jobs so I did it myself.

I know some people often try to rationalise their natural fear and many other people are unwilling to take responsibility for their situation. As you are OK with assumptions as you have made many about both me and the situation I was in, I assume you are either someone who feels kicking someone else’s seating is acceptable or someone who never ever sticks up for themselves but relies on others to do it for you.
I could have left, been several pounds down and a night out wasted, I could have suffered his continued assault on me and put up with it. Instead I got to see the film in peace and comfort.

adouglasmhor

goater78 wrote: »

This seems similar to what you did and he was charged with assault

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-16288101

In what way was it similar? I was defending myself from continued violence and I caused my assailant no injuries.

Also charges were dropped, charged is not the same as being guilty of you really seem to have problems with the meaning of words, so your selective posting of a link has done nothing to back up your erroneous opinions

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/02/09/scotrail-big-man-alan-pollock-sam-main-youtube_n_1264808.html.

System

adouglasmhor wrote: »

It was allocated seating as I said before and the theatre was full, it was not personal violence it was restraint - something very different, though his kicking the chair was in fact both an assault (it did hurt my back) and an attempt to assert a dominance over me, as it had been pointed out to him it was hurting me, all he had to do was stop. Also the cinema staff hid rather than do their jobs so I did it myself.

I know some people often try to rationalise their natural fear and many other people are unwilling to take responsibility for their situation. As you are OK with assumptions as you have made many about both me and the situation I was in, I assume you are either someone who feels kicking someone else’s seating is acceptable or someone who never ever sticks up for themselves but relies on others to do it for you.
I could have left, been several pounds down and a night out wasted, I could have suffered his continued assault on me and put up with it. Instead I got to see the film in peace and comfort.

That's fair enough I just don't believe you exhausted all options before adopting a physical solution to your problem. It seems a massive over reaction for something that seems trivial.

I am intrigued if the cinema was full what everyone else was doing as you dragged this man out of the cinema. It can't have been easy to wrestle him over the other customers?

Also was this man on his own or did you evict everyone he was with?

adouglasmhor

A couple of people clapped who had seen the whole thing from the start, some told me to sit down, his GF left with him, I didn't have to wrestle him or drag him, just loosely take hold of his arm drop my weight a bit and keep him of balance as I walked him out the door.

Edited to add both me and him were at the aisle end of our row, I was in the last row forward before the walkway bit.

Edited again to add -someone repeatedly deliberately kicking your chair is not trivial, it is unacceptable and causes discomfort. I can only assume you have never experienced it.

System

adouglasmhor wrote: »

In what way was it similar? I was defending myself from continued violence and I caused my assailant no injuries.

Also charges were dropped, charged is not the same as being guilty of you really seem to have problems with the meaning of words, so your selective posting of a link has done nothing to back up your erroneous opinions

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/02/09/scotrail-big-man-alan-pollock-sam-main-youtube_n_1264808.html.

Charges were dropped because the case got a lot of publicity and it "wasn't in the public interest to prosecute". It doesn't change the fact that what the man did was seen as assault by the police.

I see it being very similar to what you did. You gave a man behind you one warning then manhandled him out of the cinema. Its a massive over reaction and I am surprised a full scale fight didn't erupt. I certainly wouldn't accept it if someone tried to lay their hands on me.

adouglasmhor

goater78 wrote: »

Charges were dropped because the case got a lot of publicity and it "wasn't in the public interest to prosecute". It doesn't change the fact that what the man did was seen as assault by the police.who do not get the final say on the matter

I see it being very similar to what you did. You gave a man behind you one warning then manhandled him out of the cinema. Its a massive over reaction and I am surprised a full scale fight didn't erupt. I certainly wouldn't accept it if someone tried to lay their hands on me.

As I said - you are wrong. Though if he had resisted I admit I wouldn't have lost any sleep over cranking up the loose grip to a full armlock right into the body, he would have had very little option but to comply then.

System

adouglasmhor wrote: »

As I said - you are wrong. Though if he had resisted I admit I wouldn't have lost any sleep over cranking up the loose grip to a full armlock right into the body, he would have had very little option but to comply then.

Well no thats a given

The one thing I am certain about is that it doesn't take much for you to escalate the violence!

battleborn

goater78 wrote: »

Well no thats a given

The one thing I am certain about is that it doesn't take much for you to escalate the violence!

tuff guy talk

adouglasmhor

goater78 wrote: »

Well no thats a given

The one thing I am certain about is that it doesn't take much for you to escalate the violence!

The violence had allready been started by the kicker, I am sure you would have shrugged it off as you are a much nicer person than me. A full armlock would still not have injured him.