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HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

What, like....

France?

Germany?

Holland?

Austria?

etc....

Spain?

Greece?

Etc?

robmatic

RJP33 wrote: »

The difference is one is desirable for the UK since they're proven to provide massive economic benefits or cover chronic shortagess, the other isn't necessarily. We don't really need more tradesmen but there is a shortage of the others you listed.

The usual immigration policy of countries like Australia, Canada etc is a point based system overall and skill shortage list which gets those people fasttracked. They are coming to the UK and we have this system now for outside-EU, just not for EU countries where skills have no relevance to their ability to settle here.

Either way we should have the ability to pick and choose like other developed countries.

You haven't explained how a points-based system encourages valuable people to come to the UK more so than now when it is apparently relatively easy to do so but desireable people choose not to.

Surely we would end up with continued shortages of workers in key areas and fewer people willing to work for low wages? It's a recipe for declining productivity and increased inflation.

RJP33

robmatic wrote: »

You haven't explained how a points-based system encourages valuable people to come to the UK more so than now when it is apparently relatively easy to do so but desireable people choose not to.

Surely we would end up with continued shortages of workers in key areas and fewer people willing to work for low wages? It's a recipe for declining productivity and increased inflation.

The first part isn't true, if the UK wanted to let 1 million desirable skilled people in year it undoubtebly could do, this is a great country But perhaps these people are not from the struggling EU.

For the second part we'd firstly lower unemployment and the benefit bill dramatically and you can admit a certain amount of labour to cover job shortages, as most developed countries do, e.g. the US with Mexican workers.

Plus with labour supply lower you can raise the minimum wage significantly.

RJP33

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

What, like....

France?

Germany?

Holland?

Austria?

etc....

More like Canada, Australia, the US etc where controlling unskilled immigration hasn't exactly done harm has it...

Or perhaps you think the Americans should open their border with Mexico?

Sampong

It's actually more difficult now for non EU citizens to emigrate to the UK so under current policy we are closing the doors to the skilled people that we need from around the globe (I believe Indians have been hit by this), yet have an open doors to......

well just about anybody...

from the EU.

Something doesn't quite add up does it......

Thrugelmir

Sampong wrote: »

It's actually more difficult now for non EU citizens to emigrate to the UK so under current policy we are closing the doors to the skilled people that we need from around the globe (I believe Indians have been hit by this), yet have an open doors to......

well just about anybody...

from the EU.

Something doesn't quite add up does it......

Strengthening laws on deportation would be a start, as was announced today in the Queens speech. This is an area where living on an Island is ideal.

Sampong

Moby wrote: »

Sampong,
After that waffle in which you said nothing concrete ..what are their actual policies? Cutting red tape does not cut it!;) I mean for instance how will UKIP promote the interests and needs of mother's and children? What is their plan for the health service. What are their crime and rehabilitation policies. Where do they stand on trident???? What are their policies on the environment? How are thry going to end the north south divide? What are their policies on the high speed phase 2 rail links. Godfrey Bloom when interviewed by Andrew Neill yesterday obviously didn't know!

Hate to break it to you but there is no official document that gives you last word on whether something is or isn't waffle.

It's just yet another attempt to insult.

I actually gave a good overview of the ethos behind UKIP's policies which are based around common sense - that is why people are voting for them instead of the other three main parties which all say one thing - then do another.....

Like I said - if you really want answers to those questions read the manifesto, I have not wish to debate every single UKIP policy with an ignoramus who has repeatedly had the cheek to insinuate I am some kind of racist without just cause.

But it's interesting that you have hit questions on which UKIP actually take some strong positions i.e; Defence, Rail links, and Health Service. No one can argue for example that the NHS is in a total an utter mess with costs being sucked up by top heavy management and inefficient procurement. UKIP's policy on this is to streamline the NHS, reduce costs, have better procurement (no £50 pencil sharpners) and use the savings to provide a better service. This issue is also immigration dependent - the NHS (and other infrastructures) are under increased pressure from rising population and an EU exit would stop this.