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Thrugelmir wrote: »The roots of Nationalsozialismus were born some 15 years earlier. In Europe there's a rise in membership of Nationalist parties.
Nationalism is an evil that Europe as a whole, and indeed the UK, could well do without.
However it always rears it's ugly head in times of economic hardship.
This time is no different however, and as the recovery progresses the nationalists will be put back in the box until the next time desperate, naive and gullible people feel the urge to blame someone else for their problems.“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
You are right, every time I do watch it I end up shouting at the TV, usually at the Labour panelist and at Dimbleby who is biased. I get annoyed at the quite obviously pre planned questions the audience ask.neverdespairgirl wrote: »I find I am a happier and more relaxed person if I don't watch QT. So I don't watch it (-:
Then I get stressed and go to bed angry swearing not to watch it ever again.0 -
Sampong,Well why don't you look at the manifesto?
The general philosophy behind the policies is to cut out red tape, save money, encourage business to thrive and thus employ people, and to actively take steps to benefit the British people... not those who have never lived here or who have never contributed. They also favour small government.
Now when you say apart from EU withdrawal - is that a purposeful attempt to cut down the options for the answer? Unless we leave the EU (and also the European Court of Human Rights) then it is virtually impossible for any government, regardless of political colour, to achieve these things whilst we are obeying rules and restrictions from across the water.
After that waffle in which you said nothing concrete ..what are their actual policies? Cutting red tape does not cut it!;) I mean for instance how will UKIP promote the interests and needs of mother's and children? What is their plan for the health service. What are their crime and rehabilitation policies. Where do they stand on trident???? What are their policies on the environment? How are thry going to end the north south divide? What are their policies on the high speed phase 2 rail links. Godfrey Bloom when interviewed by Andrew Neill yesterday obviously didn't know!0 -
HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »Nationalism is an evil that Europe as a whole, and indeed the UK, could well do without.
However it always rears it's ugly head in times of economic hardship.
This time is no different however, and as the recovery progresses the nationalists will be put back in the box until the next time desperate, naive and gullible people feel the urge to blame someone else for their problems.
Post of the day.
It's indeed all about the economy.
We had a much larger influx of Eastern Europeans in the early 2000's than now. Somehow, immigration policy was not that much of an issue back then.
Reason? The economy was ticking over pretty well.
Fast forward to today, austerity kicking in, high unemployment...the naive and gullible like Sam"I'm not a racist"Pong and his ilk need a scapegoat.
It's the same in many other parts of Europe. National Front in France, Vlaamse Bloc in Belgium, Wilders in Holland, Golden Dawn in Greece...
As soon as the economy picks up, pin stripe suit Farage and associated creeps will crawl back under the rock where they belong.
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I would suggest that mass immigration can be a benefit for the skilled, educated middle classes. For the poorly educated, low skilled it can be a disaster.
Don't think barristers and solicitors are seeing much competition driving down their fees, whereas brickies have been hammered.0 -
I would suggest that mass immigration can be a benefit for the skilled, educated middle classes. For the poorly educated, low skilled it can be a disaster.
Mass immigration has been a benefit for the vast majority.
As in any significant societal change, there will some who gain more than others, and some who lose more than others, but on the whole it's a thoroughly good thing for society.Don't think barristers and solicitors are seeing much competition driving down their fees, whereas brickies have been hammered.
Don't kid yourself.
The rise of global competition has seen much of the more mundane legal work outsourced to India, technology has seen a rise in online service provision for routine legal matters to consumers, and fees have been falling as those who remain fight over a smaller pie of work.
Our industry has seen significant real terms decreases in our legal bills since around 2000. A benefit to us and consumers, but not so much to solicitors.
Winners and losers.... all periods in history have them.
But protectionism, be it in trade or in people, is not the answer.“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
And if you were adversely affected I am pretty sure you would fight it rather than saying "it's for the greater good so fine with me".HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »Mass immigration has been a benefit for the vast majority.
As in any significant societal change, there will some who gain more than others, and some who lose more than others, but on the whole it's a thoroughly good thing for society.
Don't kid yourself.
The rise of global competition has seen much of the more mundane legal work outsourced to India, technology has seen a rise in online service provision for routine legal matters to consumers, and fees have been falling as those who remain fight over a smaller pie of work.
Our industry has seen significant real terms decreases in our legal bills since around 2000. A benefit to us and consumers, but not so much to solicitors.
Winners and losers.... all periods in history have them.
But protectionism, be it in trade or in people, is not the answer.0 -
which skills do we have a massive shortage?
I'm not getting into the is immigration good or bad, just commenting on personal experience.
Our biggest client is a major blue chip company leading the way globally in a high-tech product and from an outsider's perspective, a good company to be employed by. They really struggle to get engineers. I can't say if the pay/package is above average or below, but I would imagine that it would be pretty reasonable.0 -
I'm not getting into the is immigration good or bad, just commenting on personal experience.
Our biggest client is a major blue chip company leading the way globally in a high-tech product and from an outsider's perspective, a good company to be employed by. They really struggle to get engineers. I can't say if the pay/package is above average or below, but I would imagine that it would be pretty reasonable.
Many years ago I was a graduate engineer (electrical); the UK was short of engineers at that time and lots of work for graduate electrical engineers.
However I didn't ever practice because the pay was worse than other graduate jobs.
Unfortunatley there has been a long habit of companies complaining about shortage of engineers but they simply didn't pay very well.0 -
Mr._Pricklepants wrote: »Post of the day.
It's indeed all about the economy.
We had a much larger influx of Eastern Europeans in the early 2000's than now. Somehow, immigration policy was not that much of an issue back then.
Reason? The economy was ticking over pretty well.
Fast forward to today, austerity kicking in, high unemployment...the naive and gullible like Sam"I'm not a racist"Pong and his ilk need a scapegoat.
It's the same in many other parts of Europe. National Front in France, Vlaamse Bloc in Belgium, Wilders in Holland, Golden Dawn in Greece...
As soon as the economy picks up, pin stripe suit Farage and associated creeps will crawl back under the rock where they belong.
Whilst it is true that economic issues do make people less receptive to immigration, there was plenty of opposition is the 2000s.
The problem then was that Labour, LibDem and most Conservatives were idealogically in love with immigration, European dream, multiculturalism etc so that it was impossible to debate the pro and cons.
Basically we are building ghettos and to pretend otherwise is unhelpful.0
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