Question Time Last night

Graham_Devon

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Pot calling the kettle black there.

I've posted dozens of times about numerous research papers, showing quite conclusively that....

Thing is, Hamish. Others have posted papers refuting all of your papers. You just claim the other papers are wrong, racists, misinformed etc and the ones you have picked are right.

This is the problem.

The best paper, which you continually ignore, for the range of opinions providing a consensus has surely got to be the parliamentary paper.

This is made up of cross party individuals with nothing to gain politically on a party or individual basis. Cross party concensus can't really be used for gain.

All the reports you have given are from Pro-EU business and Pro-Immigraton groups. So it's hardly surprising those reports show the current solution is beneficial. That is, afterall, the whole point of the groups writing the reports.

Littleweedj

Unfortunately I missed QT last night but will catch up on it later, so cannot comment at the moment.. However, whenever Nigel Farage is shown on TV interviews etc. I've noticed he appears to be ALWAYS drinking a pint of beer or smoking......is this meant to be good PR to show he is just an ordinary Joe Bloggs!!!

Sampong

Littleweedj wrote: »

Unfortunately I missed QT last night but will catch up on it later, so cannot comment at the moment.. However, whenever Nigel Farage is shown on TV interviews etc. I've noticed he appears to be ALWAYS drinking a pint of beer or smoking......is this meant to be good PR to show he is just an ordinary Joe Bloggs!!!

Hmm you could be onto something there. Are you Amy Rutland by any chance?

It could of course mean that he just likes a pint and a fag.

Fear not though - I am sure Europe will ban both soon.:D

Littleweedj

Sampong wrote: »

Hmm you could be onto something there. Are you Amy Rutland by any chance?

Who is Amy Rutland?????

Generali

Littleweedj wrote: »

Who is Amy Rutland?????

She abused the UKIP person on Question Time. It turned out that she was rather more party political then they normally like to have:

RJP33

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Immigration and being in the EU are both very good for the UK, and indeed when you look at the objective academic research, the benefits outweigh the costs by quite some margin.

Not quite - skilled labour certainly is, however there's no evidence that mass unskilled migration does anything other than lower wages and increase unemployment at the bottom, particularly in a recession.

As I said, any other developed country and this immigration policy would be considered insanity.

The UK is a great country and just having a points based system for people we need would work fine and generate benefits. Just like Australia, Canada, NZ, USA.

Sampong

RJP33 wrote: »

Not quite - skilled labour certainly is, however there's no evidence that mass unskilled migration does anything other than lower wages and increase unemployment at the bottom, particularly in a recession.

As I said, any other developed country and this immigration policy would be considered insanity.

The UK is a great country and just having a points based system for people we need would work fine and generate benefits. Just like Australia, Canada, NZ, USA.

We definitely need the right kind of Immigration, we have massive skills shortages in certain areas which we need immigration for. What I have always found dumbfounding is the fact that anyone who supports a sensible immigration policy which would allow us to govern out own borders has been branded a racist. This is despite not being opposed to immigration full stop. I literally cannot believe anyone fell for this ludicrous propaganda.

The problem with open borders to the EU is that we have no say who comes and who doesn't. The country is open to all as long as you have an EU passport - and that includes people from European countries who they would rather be rid of.

Sampong

Littleweedj wrote: »

Who is Amy Rutland?????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGlRigfEZvA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nyi-iETKz9w

^^^^^
Obviously Ken Clarke didn't listen Melanie Phillips........

Littleweedj

Sampong wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGlRigfEZvA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nyi-iETKz9w

^^^^^
Obviously Ken Clarke didn't listen Melanie Phillips........

Rest assured I am not the young and brainwashed Amy:rotfl:
I actually like Nigel Farage, his personality comes across well but obviously need to know much more about his policies and how they would be implemented.

RJP33

Absolutely, it's disgraceful that anyone suggesting not letting in half of Eastern Europe, of no benefit to the UK, is now somehow a racist. Utterly pathetic attempt to stifle any rationale consideration.

Nobody with any sense is opposed to immigration, however most people with any sense would conclude we let in those with the skills we need and benefit from and we should have control of our borders. The UK government are elected to serve in the interest of the British people.

The other unfortunate fact is Europe needs us more than we need them. We'd be just fine outside the EU.