Measles & MMR

cheepskate_2

igloo wrote: »

I too disagree with it. I quote:-

All the evidence suggests that uptake is in fact poorer with single vaccines than with the MMR, and so with single vaccines fewer children would be protected.

Uptake is poorer as it isn't free.

If single vaccines were free like MMR then they would have a true indication on 'uptake'

Spot on. Statistics/Reports can be wiggled to whatever way you want to view it.

Aimless

heartbreak_star wrote: »

It's not that is doesn't require a booster - it doesn't always require one, I believe. I'd have to double check when I get a chance.

The single vaccines are unlicensed and therefore not as safe as MMR. They are not a safe, alternative route.

http://www.healthpromotionagency.org.uk/Resources/parentschild/MMR/pdfs/Q%20&%20A%20Paper%20-%20MMR.doc.pdf

Another interesting article.

HBS x

Ok, final go, then I really am out. The vaccine information sheet from the manufacturer states it is a single dose. So does the doctor who sent it to me. Both these people have vested interests in selling more, yet both state only one is needed.

Said doctor is not some clinic set up in a hotel, he has a private surgery that has been running many years, and was previously a lecturer in paediatrics I believe before going private.

The vaccines are unlicensed as far as I remember the government of the time chose to try to restrict access to singles to promote the MMR, not because of safety. They are, as I say, produced by proper pharmaceutical companies.

Now I really am stopping.

heartbreak_star

Aimless wrote: »

he has a private surgery .

And is thusly motivated by money and little else.

HBS x

Errata

Aimless wrote: »

Ok, final go, then I really am out. The vaccine information sheet from the manufacturer states it is a single dose. So does the doctor who sent it to me. Both these people have vested interests in selling more, yet both state only one is needed.

Said doctor is not some clinic set up in a hotel, he has a private surgery that has been running many years, and was previously a lecturer in paediatrics I believe before going private.

The vaccines are unlicensed as far as I remember the government of the time chose to try to restrict access to singles to promote the MMR, not because of safety. They are, as I say, produced by proper pharmaceutical companies.

Now I really am stopping.

This sounds like Dr Aitken who runs his practice from a refurbed corner shop and also makes his living out of giving Botox injections to daft women.

heartbreak_star

Aimless wrote: »

The vaccines are unlicensed as far as I remember the government of the time chose to try to restrict access to singles to promote the MMR, not because of safety.

Not quite - it in unnecessary to pay for licences for something you don't need to use.

They are, as I say, produced by proper pharmaceutical companies.

As are many drugs that are obtainable but unlicensed in this country - I know quite well they're not produced by Bob in his garden shed

Now I really am stopping.

Bye then , have a good day.

HBS x

neverdespairgirl

cheepskate wrote: »

As for the Vaccine....The problem was not the unwillingness to vaccinate a child but the concentration of the dose(3 vaccs at once)coupled with the theorythat this could cause autism.



By giving the single vaccs to those who wanted them, then this epidemic would not be taking place, Refusing to give single vaccs is what caused this, but as usual the Government could not be seen to be bowing to pressure and coupled with all the politics that go with profit and drug companies/Government

It wouldn't be taking place without the idiocy of the man who proposed the theory. And even he has retracted it, now.

lostinrates

notanewuser wrote: »

Provided you ensured that your child/ren had all 6 jabs, I wouldn't call you irresponsible for not having the triple vaccine. Sadly not everybody does.

If all the parents in Swansea were concerned about the safety of MMR, why are they suddenly queuing up for hours to get it now?!

I am pro vaccination, but risk assessment changes, and it seems fair for people who are mot careless with their childrens health, to have made different choices at the time of a scare about a vaccine, or at a time when their was neither measles scare nor on going vaccine scare and now find that the risk balance has changed and the vaccine, whether they favour it or not is now, in their estimation, the lesser risk.

lostinrates

heartbreak_star wrote: »

And is thusly motivated by money and little else.

HBS x

I have had some amazing healthcare from private doctors, a lot of which was reduced to me or free to me or just freely given.

There are excellent, patient motivated doctors in the private sector just as much as in the nhs.

heartbreak_star

lostinrates wrote: »

I have had some amazing healthcare from private doctors, a lot of which was reduced to me or free to me or just freely given.

There are excellent, patient motivated doctors in the private sector just as much as in the nhs.

That's actually really nice to hear (hope you're recovered from whatever you needed the doc for!)

BUT as a rule I would see private practise abolished altogether

HBS x

lostinrates

heartbreak_star wrote: »

That's actually really nice to hear (hope you're recovered from whatever you needed the doc for!)

BUT as a rule I would see private practise abolished altogether

HBS x

The nhs couldn't treat my condition adequately ten years ago private saved my Life.

I am not fully recovered but I was written about a bit because I am one of th best recovered people ever.

Last summer I took a down turn and saw other doctors who were both private and nhs, and I have to say both services were mixed results. Best and most caring doctor I saw was actually a junior, whose senior consultant didn't believe what she said she had seen so hauled me back into check.

Comparing the two systems as a patient I am more comfortable in the private system, though I value the NhS very much. Hands down best nhs experience is a private thing run as nhs minor treatment centre. The nhs provision gains tremendously from this, it has huge patient satisfaction rates.