Embarrassing situation but can it be sorted?

Dogger69

lazer wrote: »

I could be wrong but it is not classed as rape if the woman is too drunk to be deemed to give consent?

Should it not therefore be sexual assault if the man was given private "dances" but was obviously to drunk to give consent?

What part of a striptease dance would constitute an assault? There has been no suggestion that any mutual activity took place here, unless you are suggesting a woman waving her knockers in front of you is an assault?

lazer

Dogger69 wrote: »

What part of a striptease dance would constitute an assault? There has been no suggestion that any mutual activity took place here, unless you are suggesting a woman waving her knockers in front of you is an assault?

It depends on the type of club it was - what a dance consists of.

Deos indecedent exposure only cover a man exposing himself - or is there a equivalent law for a female exposing herself?

Dogger69

lazer wrote: »

It depends on the type of club it was - what a dance consists of.

Deos indecedent exposure only cover a man exposing himself - or is there a equivalent law for a female exposing herself?

You're confusing your laws here - indecent exposure does not amount to an assault, it is a crime against public decency. The same law covers both sexes.

The OP has not suggested that it is anything more than a normal strip club, that tend to be very strict about how far their workers (and their clients) are allowed to go. Unless you know otherwise, it would seem you are letting your imagination run away with you!

gb12345

lazer wrote: »

Should it not therefore be sexual assault if the man was given private "dances" but was obviously to drunk to give consent?

Surely he gave his consent by tapping his PIN into the machine - if he is sober enough to be able to remember his PIN and enter it then he is likely sober enough to consent to (and enjoy ) the "dance".

gardner1

maninthestreet wrote: »

For £5K I would want a lot more than just that.

Its amazing how much some of those "special services" cost

lazer

gb12345 wrote: »

Surely he gave his consent by tapping his PIN into the machine - if he is sober enough to be able to remember his PIN and enter it then he is likely sober enough to consent to (and enjoy ) the "dance".

Does that mean that a woman gives her consent to s e x by inviting someone into her house, if she is sober enough to use a key she is sober enough to consent to s e x?

I think it it dispicable that the strip club took advantage that (considering they remember nothing) was obviously very drunk to such an extent that he spent £5,000, and they are should have to hold some of the responsibility for this.

I am normally an advocate of personal responsibilty but I hate to see people been taken advantage off!
Perhaps contract law applies here - if his mental capacity was diminished was the contract he entered valid?

gazzak_2

Dogger69 wrote: »

Your experience is clearly limited to low end clubs

More like many many years ago

lawstudent

lazer wrote: »

It depends on the type of club it was - what a dance consists of.

Deos indecedent exposure only cover a man exposing himself - or is there a equivalent law for a female exposing herself?

Presumably all of this happened in the club therefore no indecent exposure can have occurred. On private property you may wear as little clothing as you desire provided the owner consents. Anyone who is fortunate (or unfortunate) enough to see this takes that risk when they enter.

lazer

lawstudent wrote: »

Presumably all of this happened in the club therefore no indecent exposure can have occurred. On private property you may wear as little clothing as you desire provided the owner consents. Anyone who is fortunate (or unfortunate) enough to see this takes that risk when they enter.

Thank you for this information

gb12345

lazer wrote: »

Does that mean that a woman gives her consent to s e x by inviting someone into her house, if she is sober enough to use a key she is sober enough to consent to s e x?

There is a big difference between sticking a key in a keyhole and remembering a PIN. Your continual comparison between rape and what has happened here really are irrelevant as a number of us here have experience of credit card fraud claims, but I would doubt that any of us have intricate knowledge of consent laws.

lazer wrote: »

I think it it dispicable that the strip club took advantage that (considering they remember nothing) was obviously very drunk to such an extent that he spent £5,000, and they are should have to hold some of the responsibility for this.

I am normally an advocate of personal responsibilty but I hate to see people been taken advantage off!
Perhaps contract law applies here - if his mental capacity was diminished was the contract he entered valid?

Mental capacity diminished so much that he could remember his PIN?

As I said before - if he has been conned into authorising a payment for £5k thinking it was 50 quid then he has been taken advantage of and could likely have a case.

But in a lot of these places high flyers dropping a couple of hundred quid on a bottle of fizz to impress the ladies (or even clients it they are businessmen on expenses) is a common event and he would have trouble arguing that he was so drunk that he didn't know what he was doing but was able to repeatedly enter his PIN.