Noisy kids upstairs, should the previous owner disclose this when selling? Help pleas

olly300

jingledoghere wrote: »

Do you mean the management company? I did call them in order to reach their landlord. The lady asked the reason why I need talk to the landlord. I said it's some kind of noise issues but I did not give more details. So she report this noise issue to landlord and let him call me back. Well well, does this mean my complain was logged as a dispute anyway?

You know you could phone up the management company and ask them.

She probably didn't write anything down but it's worth checking.

Fire_Fox

jingledoghere wrote: »

Hello all, thanks a lot for your guys reply :beer:

An update here, I just talked to the father upstairs. Well, it will not solve my problem here unfortunately. Firstly, he is not happy that I went up to make complain to the kids so soon again although I explained calmly and friendly that I just want to find solution. He said they've tried their best to control the kids and they don't think the noise is too bad considering the kids mainly make noise during daytime which should not bother others too much (of course except me here). I asked about their floor. He showed me that the 2 bedrooms are carpeted but the hallway and living room are with laminate. They do put rugs on the floor. He insist these are all they can do:(

Now I have to find my own solution. If I sell this flat, do i have to mention the upstairs noise? I complained twice to them and to their landlord once?

Does it say anything about flooring type in the long lease? Again contact EH and the freeholder regarding the noise and sound proofing, you have nothing to lose and everything to gain. The may mediate and the landlord may end up agreeing to install carpeting and/ or acoustic underlay. Rugs are not going to cut the mustard.

Also purchase some wax or silicone ear plugs, I cannot tell when I have the wax ones in they are so comfortable.

olly300

Fire_Fox wrote: »

Does it say anything about flooring type in the long lease? Again contact EH and the freeholder regarding the noise and sound proofing, you have nothing to lose and everything to gain. The may mediate and the landlord may end up agreeing to install carpeting and/ or acoustic underlay. Rugs are not going to cut the mustard.
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If you contact the Environmental Health and freeholder/management company to complain, it becomes a dispute you have to inform purchasers of your flat of.

Even if they don't do anything because legally children running around, playing, crying and shouting isn't regarded as noise.

The landlord will be aware of this and unless the leases states plainly they can't have hard flooring, s/he will ignore the OP.

BTW if it was the adults making the noise then you could complain and they could be eventually forced out but because it's children nothing will happen.

I'm now in the position where I have to inform any time I sell that I complained about a neighbour and got the issue sorted. Likewise I have a relative in the same position.

ndf9876

I feel your pain here, I really do.

My wife and I lived in a shared ownership flat a couple of years ago, and the folks upstairs had a toddler which would run up, down and around the living room until 22:00-23:00 at night. To make matters worse, they had installed wood flooring which only amplified the banging. Needless to say, it was very loud and

I complained and was threatened (no joking) which in itself was hilarious, as I was really nice to them. That night they jumped up and down in the lounge for 10 minutes solid - I remember it well.

At that point we knew we either complained to the Housing Association and make a big deal of it, or sell up and move on. We chose the latter and swore never again to buy a flat.

jingledoghere

olly300 wrote: »

You know you could phone up the management company and ask them.

She probably didn't write anything down but it's worth checking.

Thanks. When I said it was kind of noise problem, the lady asked further what problem it is, they may help to sort it out. But I insist to take to the landlord first, if I need their help, I will call back later. She agreed and contacted the landlord for me afterwards. Now, how do I check this is recorded or not? Oh, I messed it up:eek:

jingledoghere

ndf9876 wrote: »

I feel your pain here, I really do.

My wife and I lived in a shared ownership flat a couple of years ago, and the folks upstairs had a toddler which would run up, down and around the living room until 22:00-23:00 at night. To make matters worse, they had installed wood flooring which only amplified the banging. Needless to say, it was very loud and

I complained and was threatened (no joking) which in itself was hilarious, as I was really nice to them. That night they jumped up and down in the lounge for 10 minutes solid - I remember it well.

At that point we knew we either complained to the Housing Association and make a big deal of it, or sell up and move on. We chose the latter and swore never again to buy a flat.

Thank you! Fortunately now at least I could have some quiet time after 10pm when kids go to bed. I am a native first time buyer, not realised kids could make such unbearable noise. Maybe I will have to sell it and move out.

olly300

jingledoghere wrote: »

Thank you! Fortunately now at least I could have some quiet time after 10pm when kids go to bed. I am a native first time buyer, not realised kids could make such unbearable noise. Maybe I will have to sell it and move out.

Phone them up and ask straight out - Have you recorded any disputes between me and my neighbours?

The fact you said you wanted to talk to the landlord first means it shouldn't be recorded especially as you didn't complain again.

BTW when you are selling you risk prospective buyers coming round when the children are running around.

Fire_Fox

Yes I can really see the logic in spending thousands moving instead of trying to resolve the problem. They are tenants, they could move at any time. It's not necessarily a dispute unless there is a complaint.

fionajbanana

hazyjo wrote: »

Do you know if they have carpet?

Jx

Kids, flats and laminate flooring do not mix!

wannahouse

Fire_Fox wrote: »

I'm fascinated how many people think children's noise is acceptable regardless of what type, wonder how many would be saying the same if it was dogs running around and barking.

I don't recall being allowed to run and jump indoors when I was a child, safety of ourselves and household belongings primarily. We played relatively calmly indoors or went outside.

thats just the thing firefox.. YOU HAD AN OUTSIDE TO PLAY IN!
kids in a flat don't!
most flats would have a no pet policy..you can't exactly ban children, can you?

the authoritiesbthink children making noise indoors is acceptable- hence not enforcing anything.. thats just life in crowded surroundings and particulary difficult on children...
what a rubbish life for kids,,but if that is all you can afford, what can you do? put a muzzle on your kids ad drug them so they are quiet and don't move around?