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  • rebel_2
    rebel_2 Posts: 124 Forumite
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    edited 26 April 2013 at 5:39PM
    A man diagnosed with a Heart Condition, but passed 'fit for work' by ATOS Doctors/Healthcare Professionals. The state owed this man a 'Duty of Care' This man should be alive today. There are hundreds/thousands of similar cases.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9436969/Disability-tests-sending-sick-and-disabled-back-to-work.html
  • tomtom256
    tomtom256 Posts: 2,249 Forumite
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    rebel wrote: »
    A man diagnosed with a Heart Condition, but passed 'fit for work' by ATOS Doctors/Healthcare Professionals. The state owed this man a 'Duty of Care' This man should be alive today. There are hundreds/thousands of examples.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9436969/Disability-tests-sending-sick-and-disabled-back-to-work.html

    So where does it say his heart condition would prevent him from working?

    And where dos it say that if he hadn't had the two assessments he wouldn't have died or if he had been found unfit for work he wouldn't have died?

    We have no true way of knowing and if there where truley hundreds/thousands of examples of people dying then surely they the assessments would have stopped.

    Perhaps it's criminal negligence so ring the police maybe something will get done then.
  • rebel_2
    rebel_2 Posts: 124 Forumite
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    At last you've got it, questions that an inquiry would look into and could answer. To be honest, I'd work on your ability to think, it's clouded by your stupidity.
    tomtom256 wrote: »
    So where does it say his heart condition would prevent him from working?

    And where dos it say that if he hadn't had the two assessments he wouldn't have died or if he had been found unfit for work he wouldn't have died?

    We have no true way of knowing and if there where truley hundreds/thousands of examples of people dying then surely they the assessments would have stopped.

    Perhaps it's criminal negligence so ring the police maybe something will get done then.
  • tomtom256
    tomtom256 Posts: 2,249 Forumite
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    edited 27 April 2013 at 7:21AM
    rebel wrote: »
    At last you've got it, questions that an inquiry would look into and could answer. To be honest, I'd work on your ability to think, it's clouded by your stupidity.

    Not really as my stance hasn't changed nor is it stupitidy just mere common sense and looking at the facts not conjecture. An inquiry would not lead to any criminal cases where as a police investigation would. But without the proof what do you expectt

    No need for a personal attack now old boy is there, because I mean you don't come off as being too bright yourself, but don't let that hold you back in life, plenty of support available out there for your kind and if you can't get any you can always appeal or have an inquiry!
  • rebel_2
    rebel_2 Posts: 124 Forumite
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    The guys only need to review your posts on this thread, you are clueless, even when you lost the argument, you still posted your meaningless points and questions. There is a lot of support for my type, because you
    as stated previously, you are clueless.
    tomtom256 wrote: »
    Not really as my stance hasn't changed nor is it stupitidy just mere common sense and looking at the facts not conjecture. An inquiry would not lead to any criminal cases where as a police investigation would. But without the proof what do you expectt

    No need for a personal attack now old boy is there, because I mean you don't come off as being too bright yourself, but don't let that hold you back in life, plenty of support available out there for your kind and if you can't get any you can always appeal or have an inquiry!
  • tomtom256
    tomtom256 Posts: 2,249 Forumite
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    rebel wrote: »
    The guys only need to review your posts on this thread, you are clueless, even when you lost the argument, you still posted your meaningless points and questions. There is a lot of support for my type, because you
    as stated previously, you are clueless.

    Sorry thought this was a discussion and not an argument that had to be won or lost.

    I gave my opinion you gave yours both differ, I cannot see were anyone has won or lost.

    However no enquiry started so presumably if you want to be anal surely I won the argument, sorry discussion.

    Those that want to sign can, but it will change nothing nor will it bring back the dead, but at least they could then sue if ATOS were found at fault so win win!
  • ampersand
    ampersand Posts: 9,665 Forumite
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    JS477 wrote: »
    "First they came for the communists,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

    Then they came for the socialists,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

    Then they came for me,
    and there was no one left to speak for me."


    All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.


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    Thankyou JS377m -

    These are precisely the 2 things I was about to post.
    The current incumbents count on general apathy.
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