This is a Petition that needs to be signed

rebel_2

The common theme is that your questions are 'pointless', that is the common theme here. You even answer your own question.

Dogger69 wrote: »

You are not willing to back up your assertion with facts? You said many petitions had worked, yet you don't seem able to name any.

There seems to be a common theme here ...

JS477

Dogger69 wrote: »

By your own admission we don't know why these people died, hence you cannot apportion blame.

It is tragic when someone dies before their time, but in order to make a change you need to present facts, not maybes.

If the clinical facts surrounding the health of these poor dead people had been initally sought by atos then perhaps a different outcome for these people may have transpired.

Dogger69

rebel wrote: »

The common theme is that your questions are 'pointless', that is the common theme here. You even answer your own question.

Still waiting for these many examples ...

Dogger69

JS477 wrote: »

If the clinical facts surrounding the health of these poor dead people had been initally sought by atos then perhaps a different outcome for these people may have transpired.

You have no evidence to make that link, do you? I'm not disagreeing that the WCA process may have been a factor in *some* deaths, but without any proof, your assertions are worthless.

rebel_2

Try to read what's been written, where exactly have I said this, where have I used 'killing everyone'? Learn to read.

'What exactlty is this "process" you say is killing everyone? '

tomtom256 wrote: »

So the "process" killed them and not the illness then? An inquiry is definately needed as I am surprised more people aren't dying daily because of the "process"

What exactlty is this "process" you say is killing everyone?

tomtom256

rebel wrote: »

Try to read what's been written, where exactly have I said this, where have I used 'killing everyone'? Learn to read.

'What exactlty is this "process" you say is killing everyone? '

If it is about ATOS causing deaths is that not the same as ATOS killing them? What an excellent point to help your argument, semantics on the english verse.

You still haven't explained this "process" that is causing their deaths (is that better for you)

bigboybrother

I think that a more worthwhile petition would be one for the government to order an enquiry into the needless deaths that are caused every year to pigeons.

It is barbaric that people put pigeons in a crate and ship them 100's of miles away from their comfy nest and when they get to where they are going they are made to fly all the way back home and have to do without food and water until they get home.

Cruel it is.

Many die in the process of exhaustion, dehydration and starvation.

Richie-from-the-Boro

National mortality rate [ 6.5 deaths per 1000 ] WRAG group [ 137 per 1000 ] - grow up - posted a year ago on these boards, nowt to do with the Disability & Benefits group, take it elsewhere. Do a bit of work, get at the real facts, stop polluting this group and post in the appropriate group .. .. or go back to the 'pub' [The Money Savers Arms‎] group where you can argue like girlie-men about things you can't comprehend !

rebel, take it elsewhere, but your starter for ten is what is the current statistical difference between the UK National mortality rate - and any group you choose to consider. For me I'm outta here before I start spitting at the dartboard and being all 'wellard'.

Petition - truth and fact, top-eight :

- Stop the badger cull - 197,231
- Stop mass immigration from Bulgarian and Romanians in 2014, when EU restrictions on immigration are relaxed - 146,221
- Return Shaker Aamer to the UK - 117,409
- Save Children's Cardiac Surgery at the EMCHC at Glenfield Leicester - 109,027
- Nurses Registration Fees - 75,359
- Stop the Abolition of Disability Living Allowance for Personal Independence Payments - 45,279
- Save services for deaf children - 47,131
- HMRC confidential info leak - 39,826

As for the O/P's assertion .. .. its not a petition, has no clout whatsoever, and is probably northing more than spam to draw the good people of MSE to the site s/he posted. The HM GOV site returns a NOT FOUND for any such petition.

Search results For "Department of Work and Pensions: Hold a Public Enquiry into deaths after Atos medicals"

melbury

JS477 wrote: »

"First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the socialists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak for me."


All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.


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Bye Bye 'bigboybrother'

So you are saying that if you are not a communist, socialist or trade unionist you are basically screwed!

I am sure there are many good people who are something other than the above.

headcone

Signed and thanks OP.