Active Manuka Honey 6+

joaniemerc

WishI'dReadSooner wrote: »

What's recommended is a teaspoon 3 times a day (if possible 30 mins before a meal) Take it on a small piece of cooled toast or cracker - best not to take it as is - for some reason it seems to work better on say 1/4-1/2 a slice of toast.
What you HAVE to do is take religiously for 6 weeks at least - they say up to 13 wks. in order to fully kill off the H. Pylori bacteria.

It is really important to take 3 times a day on toast. I took myself off Omeprazole after just 4-5 days on Manuka but then I had a slight flare up a week later. Put myself back on the prazole & had the most horrendous regurgitations. I never touched Omeprazole again & have been acid free for years. Occasionally I'll take for a week now if I have ANY signs I might be coming down with it again.

Thanks very much - appreciate your reply.

I pass Holland & Barrett on way home so will go in and buy some and start tonight. Throat is really sore:(

davnig

Manuka is realy no more than a marketing ploy - it's no better than local honey, in fact as has been said on the thread local honey is less filtered and heat treated and tastes a lot better.

try your local honey, you won't be disappointed

headpin

You can get a Double jar pack of 340 gm each jar of 12+ Manuka Honey in Costco for about £9. As it is food no VAT payable. They also often have it on offer for around £7 a double pack.

This is about half the cost you would pay in most supermarkets. Who is ripping who off?

olivepalm

headpin wrote: »

You can get a Double jar pack of 340 gm each jar of 12+ Manuka Honey in Costco for about £9. As it is food no VAT payable. They also often have it on offer for around £7 a double pack.

This is about half the cost you would pay in most supermarkets. Who is ripping who off?

Everybody is ripping everybody off. Anyway, Costco is far away from everything. It's not exactly high street shop. What is quality of the Costco manuka? if it's the same as Aldi's, it explains the price.

WishI'dReadSooner

davnig wrote: »

Manuka is realy no more than a marketing ploy - it's no better than local honey, in fact as has been said on the thread local honey is less filtered and heat treated and tastes a lot better.

try your local honey, you won't be disappointed

You are talking rubbish - do some "proper" research before spouting nonsense! I researched for weeks in the early days of the internet when the 'proper' clinical trials and Waikato University research was published fully on the web.

As long as Active +UMF is used (10+ is good enough for nearly everything, above that the prices tend to go crazy) then it's FAR better than 'normal' honey. It's the tea tree nectar that gives it such wonderful qualities.

****Many honeys have some antibacterial properties; enzymes in honey naturally produce hydrogen peroxide, which is an antibacterial agent.

However, these properties are easily destroyed by heat and light (processing is included here), and by the enzyme catalase in our bodies which breaks down hydrogen peroxide, further damaging the antibacterial strength.

Active Manuka Honey, sourced only from New Zealand where the Manuka bush grows, is different. It contains high concentrations of another antibacterial compound called methylglyoxal, which is a natural by-product of glucose produced by humans, animals and plants. Methylglyoxal is very stable and not damaged by heat, light or catalase enzymes.

Although Methylglyoxal is found in a variety of honeys, research into more than 80 honeys from around the globe found that levels in Manuka Honey were unique - up to 70 times higher than those in other honey.

Working with another as yet unidentified compound, Methylglyoxal provides antibacterial protection that is twice as effective as other honeys against bacteria in infected wounds and far better at beating the helicobacter pylori bacteria, the common cause of peptic ulcers.

The antibacterial activity of Manuka Honey penetrates more deeply into skin tissue, enabling it successfully to treat infected wounds which have resisted all other treatments, including strong antibiotics.

The activity rating (+) shows the unique type of antibacterial activity which is naturally present in some honey made from the nectar of the Manuka bush (Leptospermum scoparium), native to New Zealand.

The activity numbers for honey can be confusing. Clinical trials show that Manuka Honey below 8+ has negligible therapeutic value so stick to honey with values above 10+.

Very high numbers, 18+ can be misleading as it may mean the honey has been heat treated. This increases the active factor but destroys the antiseptic and anti-inflammatory properties of the honey.
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WishI'dReadSooner

I've just noticed that some of the honey on Holland & Barrett site is JUST Active+ NOT Active+ UMF . I just looked initially at the 10+ Active UMF - which is a pretty decent price 1kg (2 jars) for £19.00

It's the UMF Manuka you need - which is tested and contains the 'Unique Manuka Factor' - which is the main benefit of Manuka. The others just labelled Active+ are just the rating on Peroxide activity. The UMF ones are the ones I always buy. Noticed that Sainsbury's (where I used to buy) also now don't say UMF - I therefore wouldn't buy there any more. The Active+ could be a far inferior product. IF it says Active 10+ tested Non Peroxide activity that should mean it's similar to UMF BUT to be safe try to stick to UMF.

Sorry if I've mislead anyone but I haven't bought any for a few years now - having bought a big stash at a great price - UMF of course!

UMF factor honey rises exponentially - from memory 5+UMF is something like 10-50 times weaker than 10+UMF - don't quote me on that! - I do know that 10+ UMF is effective on just about everything and also not so expensive as to be cost prohibitive.

There is a complicated way of working out the effectiveness, based on how much Staphylococcus Aureus is killed around a tightly controlled sample on an Agar plate. 15+UMF does not kill an awful lot more than 10+UMF so it's not 10-50 times stronger. Sounds wrong but far too complicated to explain to someone not used to using Agar plates to determine potency on a daily basis.

rubytuesday

Recently Waitrose had Manuka honey on 3 for 2 so I stocked up as I have been diagnosed with gastritis and hope it will help.

Hopefully they will repeat this offer at some point.

fingersuk

WishI'dReadSooner wrote: »

You are talking rubbish - do some "proper" research before spouting nonsense! I researched for weeks in the early days of the internet when the 'proper' clinical trials and Waikato University research was published fully on the web.

As long as Active +UMF is used (10+ is good enough for nearly everything, above that the prices tend to go crazy) then it's FAR better than 'normal' honey. It's the tea tree nectar that gives it such wonderful qualities.

****Many honeys have some antibacterial properties; enzymes in honey naturally produce hydrogen peroxide, which is an antibacterial agent.

However, these properties are easily destroyed by heat and light (processing is included here), and by the enzyme catalase in our bodies which breaks down hydrogen peroxide, further damaging the antibacterial strength.

Active Manuka Honey, sourced only from New Zealand where the Manuka bush grows, is different. It contains high concentrations of another antibacterial compound called methylglyoxal, which is a natural by-product of glucose produced by humans, animals and plants. Methylglyoxal is very stable and not damaged by heat, light or catalase enzymes.

Although Methylglyoxal is found in a variety of honeys, research into more than 80 honeys from around the globe found that levels in Manuka Honey were unique - up to 70 times higher than those in other honey.

Working with another as yet unidentified compound, Methylglyoxal provides antibacterial protection that is twice as effective as other honeys against bacteria in infected wounds and far better at beating the helicobacter pylori bacteria, the common cause of peptic ulcers.

The antibacterial activity of Manuka Honey penetrates more deeply into skin tissue, enabling it successfully to treat infected wounds which have resisted all other treatments, including strong antibiotics.

The activity rating (+) shows the unique type of antibacterial activity which is naturally present in some honey made from the nectar of the Manuka bush (Leptospermum scoparium), native to New Zealand.

The activity numbers for honey can be confusing. Clinical trials show that Manuka Honey below 8+ has negligible therapeutic value so stick to honey with values above 10+.

Very high numbers, 18+ can be misleading as it may mean the honey has been heat treated. This increases the active factor but destroys the antiseptic and anti-inflammatory properties of the honey.
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Seriously if you think Manuka honey isn't filtered and heated in mass production your in dreamland. Dont get me wrong i'm not say its crap and wont work, just it wont be as good as the raw stuff.

Local honey has been proved to have the exact healing properties, so do your research, infact go buy a local honey and try what you do with your manuka honey and you'll be surprised.

Manuka honey is mainly a marketing ploy though with the over egging on health benefits, the're not exactly going to say we pasteurised our honey at 72oC destroying a lot of the good stuff that goes in it (bear in mind some manuka is cold pressed but most isn't as its uneconomic to produce in mass supply).

joaniemerc

WishI'dReadSooner wrote: »

I've just noticed that some of the honey on Holland & Barrett site is JUST Active+ NOT Active+ UMF ..

This is what I bought from H&B yesterday : Comvita UMF10+ 500g tub. Got two (so 1kg) for £17.56 - one was in the Penny Sale.

notanewuser

pinkcalculator wrote: »

Not all pharmacist have that attitude I have arnica tablets of various strengths and cream always is the house we keep bottle of echinacea and I have aloe Vera plants on the window. There's a few other ones I keep around too. I gave up pharmacy years ago and remember the days of boxes of 100 paracetamol its all money now
I've not tried the honey yet but I am certainly open minded enough to give it a good try plus I will look around for local honey as I've been tested positive fir grass and tree pollens at a low level.
This has been an amazing thread I've learnt so much.

You mean in various weaknesses. . Arnica pills contain no arnica (its actually poisonous to humans taken internally). They have zero active ingredients. You may as well take chocolate buttons.

Topical arnica creams and gels do contain active arnica, and are likely to speed up recovery of bruises etc.