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Separated, how much should I provide?

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  • JackRS
    JackRS Posts: 1,063 Forumite
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    Tonight I am discussing how to split our assets. There are 4 basic topics:

    1) House (starting point 50/50)
    2) Pension (starting point 50/50)
    3) Spousal maintenance (agree amount and period)
    4) Car

    House:
    I suspect she may propose 80/20 for house in her favour due to her earning potential. However I would prefer a 60/40 split in her favour for the house. Contents to also be agreed, valued and included in the proportion calculation. If contents value is £5000 and she has it all that should be included in the calculation.

    Pension:
    I would suggest the pension is split 80/20 in my favour as the current value is similar to the house. However if the we agree to the house being 60/40 split in her favour for the house then we should use the same in my favour for the pension.

    Spousal maintenance:
    I know she expects lifetime payment. I will propose to continue paying her 30% of my take home pay until the end of this year then pay CSA recommended 15% until our sons 20th birthday February 2016.

    Car:
    Continue to providing a new car from my employment ownership scheme for another year at a cost to me of £185/m. At the end of the term review the situation.

    Additionally:
    I will continue to support our Children as and when they need and continue to pay them an allowance which is currently done by paying their monthly contract phone charge.

    Do you think this is reasonable and fair?

    Meanwhile the next tenants in my rental house move in 31st July so I’ve got to get out soon, not sure what I’m doing?
    Regards

    JackRS
  • ecgirl07
    ecgirl07 Posts: 662 Forumite
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    JackRS wrote: »

    Car:
    Continue to providing a new car from my employment ownership scheme for another year at a cost to me of £185/m. At the end of the term review the situation.

    Reviewing the term leaves it open - I would suggest you provide the car for as long as you provide the 30% of your take home ie to the end of the year. Then you could negotiate to the end of the term as a compromise. After that it is up to your ex to sort out her own transport.


    edit to say the rest sounds more than fair. Good luck with mediation.
  • Mojisola
    Mojisola Posts: 35,571 Forumite
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    I wouldn't put in writing how much you will give your children (or specify things like "pay phone contract".

    If you were all still a family, they would probably have got help from you on an "as and when needed and if we can afford it" basis.
  • JackRS
    JackRS Posts: 1,063 Forumite
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    Actually as I’m looking at an equity buy out at what ever proportion we agree I would need to stop 30% maintenance payments once I start paying the mortgage so I would link the timing to that.
    Regards

    JackRS
  • JackRS
    JackRS Posts: 1,063 Forumite
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    We both have credit card debt, should that be considered and added into the house value calculation as it's a 'negative asset' ?
    Regards

    JackRS
  • thorsoak
    thorsoak Posts: 7,166 Forumite
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    Whatever spousal maintenance you offer, it should be withdrawn should she marry/cohabit again ......
  • Mojisola
    Mojisola Posts: 35,571 Forumite
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    Any debts must be included in the settlement.

    It's only when you look at assets and debts that you get a true picture of the financial position.
  • JackRS
    JackRS Posts: 1,063 Forumite
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    thorsoak wrote: »
    Whatever spousal maintenance you offer, it should be withdrawn should she marry/cohabit again ......

    Well yes it'll have conditions on it, but as I I'd prefer a shorter term it may not be relevant
    Regards

    JackRS
  • Mojisola
    Mojisola Posts: 35,571 Forumite
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    There are exs who deliberately stay single just to make sure their maintenance continues. You could end up paying her forever unless it has a cut-off point.

    There must also be some way of including the benefits that she's refusing to claim.
  • justme111
    justme111 Posts: 3,531 Forumite
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    I may have missed something - why pension split 80/20 in your favour ? It should be 50/50 ?
    I would not include children under additional , surely your support tp children beyond cs should be arranged with them , not with your ex. Otherwise it puts her in a role of representing children in dealing with you , not a good position for you as it is in the context of haggling with her and makes it as if you were hagglingng with children.
    Good luck .
    If you don't reach complete agreement at the first step do not dispair , one step at a time.
    Re where to go - furniture into storage and back to sharing accommodation ? Will rub it into her face what position you are in. I would check with solicitors re moving back into a marital home , after all you are homeless and it is your housea wellwell !!
    The word "dilemma" comes from Greek where "di" means two and "lemma" means premise. Refers usually to difficult choice between two undesirable options.
    Often people seem to use this word mistakenly where "quandary" would fit better.
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